Baden Clay Trial

[azureline**]

Allison Baden Clay Murder 2 years ago

I was reading up on this today, as the trial started Monday.

The senior Baden Clay was on the stand today and gave evidence about something his wife told him about his daughter in law..................................I thought they usually objected and called that heresay?

Don't they do that in Australia? have I watched too many American crime shows?

[polksaladallie]

I see the judge has given the jury the option of manslaughter, when neither the prosecution or defence have.

If I had to guess, I would say there was a struggle and death occurred (but was not intentional), and he panicked and tried to cover it up.

[cherry*135]

SUPREME Court Justice John Byrne began his summary of the long-running trial on Wednesday.

He told the jury that to find Baden-Clay guilty of murder they must be satisfied of two things: that he caused his wife's death and that he intended to at least cause her grievous harm.
"Were you to find the accused not guilty of murder, you will then consider him not guilty or guilty of manslaughter," he told them.
Manslaughter is the unlawful killing of a person without intent, the judge said.
In Queensland, both murder and manslaughter carry a maximum sentence of life imprisonment.
If found guilty of murder Baden-Clay faces at least 15 years' in jail without parole, while there is no fixed minimum non-parole period for manslaughter.
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/latest-news/baden-clay-jury-to-hear-final-arguments/story-fn3dx...

[cherry*135]

Silvernanny - there is a lot of info on the websleuths site as well under Allison Baden- Clay Australia

[azureline**]

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@polksaladallie wrote:

I see the judge has given the jury the option of manslaughter, when neither the prosecution or defence have.

If I had to guess, I would say there was a struggle and death occurred (but was not intentional), and he panicked and tried to cover it up.

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Yes I am beginning to think a manslaughter verdict will be the result. I didn't know that the Judge could do that? Do we hope for a fast result?

[cherry*135]

If you kill someone, for example, by smothering them..then the intent is there?

polkas "I see the judge has given the jury the option of manslaughter, when neither the prosecution or defence have."


The Defence can't consider manslaughter as they claim GBC did not kill his wife i.e he had nothing to do with her death.

Prosecution want a guilty of murder verdict.

[freddie*rooster]

He smothered her, guilty of murder.

[purple_haize]

I read in QLD, both manslaughter and murder both have the same sentence............life in jail.

[cherry*135]

I posted this above which was taken from the news coverage for this trial. No fixed minimum non-parole period for manslaughter.

"In Queensland, both murder and manslaughter carry a maximum sentence of life imprisonment.
If found guilty of murder Baden-Clay faces at least 15 years' in jail without parole, while there is no fixed minimum non-parole period for manslaughter."

[cherry*135]

az. " Do we hope for a fast result?"

Jury in Rolf Harris trial deliberated for 8 days and reached a Guilty verdict.

[azureline**]

they had "no actual evidence" though? no DNA, no suspicious injuries , no mistresses etc...................