Bark control collars

[jessicadazzler97]

 If you search for a dog collar on eBay, you'll be bombarded by 'bark control collars'.

 Basically when the dog barks, an electronic shock is sent to the dog's neck that travels through their body.

 Most of these collars have bids on them. Does nobody know that these collars are so dangerous and so traumatic that they are close to being illegalized in some countries?

[polksaladallie]

What does your special book say about babies and dogs?

[rose_tvaddict]

everyone that knows anything about dogs and training will know that positive reward training has been used for decades. 

everyone (except your author and you, it seems) knows that dogs are pack animals - ie they will search for a 'leader-of-the-pack' and if they don't find one, the dominant male will take on the roll himself. In the wild, there is always a dominant male, dominant female and a heirachy in the pack. In a domestic situation, the human(s) should be pack leader and the dogs will fall in behind that leader. If the humans do not assume that leadership role, one of the dogs will - that is when problems happen.

I watched a show the other day with Martin Clunes, about how we domesticated wolves and, down through the centuries, how we have bred for certain characteristics eg ratting, bear fighting etc. Good show - everyone in that show stressed that dogs, as pack animals, will form a pack around a leader. A pack can consist of two or more dogs - up to dozens - but they are still a pack, even if they are/are not close family members initially, they soon will be because the male with breeding rights will dominate the gene pool.

[joz*garage]

whats the theory for stray dogs that roam around scavenging for food on their own, do they recruit other stray dogs or cling to other stray dogs eventually?

[chuk_77]

ok so everything you say comes from a book, created to make someone rich.....

I'll stick to facts from peole in the industry and those with experience and actually know what they are talking about over a kid reading from a book. As you have shown already you dont read what is written but read into what has been written, I'll take your posts with a grain of salt

[tasfleur]

Good morning all.

Jessica, I hope you can believe that the term "pack" for dogs and/or wolves is not a derogatory term or an insult to them, but a general description of dogs/wolves that survive on their own.

Conversely, a pack can still be used to describe more than one dog under the control of people.

Can't wait to get a dog, it will most likely be a Maltese cross, or a miniature snauzer, poodle, but nothing too big, although we would love to have a golden retreiver or labrador, but we don't have a suitable space for a bigger dog so it wouldn't be fair to the dog.

Back later, off to do some fabric hunting.

Hope everyone is having a good weekend.

[azureline**]

How condescending.

What about sheep?

[tasfleur]

I don't think Jessica is being condescending, perhaps it's the terminology that is different to how others understand it ... 

Always thought sheep were a 'flock' not a pack.

[rose_tvaddict]

and, I forgot to mention, a 'pack' may well consist of only 1 dog and 1 or more humans - it's still a pack with leader(s) and subordinates etc as far as that one dog is concerned.

Someone asked earlier about all the neigborhood dogs getting together to form a pack. Why would they? They are already members of a pack - their 'family' is their pack. Hopefully led by a  competent human. 

[j*oono]

Stray dog pack.

[azureline**]

A group of sheep is called a drove, flock or herd. A very large group of sheep is referred to as a band or mob.