on 18-09-2013 10:46 AM
If Labor elect Bill Shorten as leader then they deserve everything they get.
Bill Shorten the machine man, the union heavy, the man who destroyed 2 sitting Prime Minister's reign & betrayed his own support base, the man who engineered the worst failures of govt. in history because of his machinations.
A charmless, dull, short tempered man, a man who will bring nothing to the leadership & will ensure Labor stay out of contention for more than 2 terms.
He is from the right faction & ordinarily I would prefer that (see the left socialist Gillard disaster) but a more popular man like Albanese is more palatable even though he is steeped in the left faction.
Albanese looks like a shoo in as his left faction support in the rank & file is enormous but he may not get the support of the caucus.
What is ahead for Labor if the caucus elect Short Fuse Shorten but he is defeated by the rank & file? will it mean more instability because the caucus will not have supported the winner Albanese ie. his caucus didn't want him!
on 18-09-2013 11:16 AM
That article reads like the real author is concerned about Shorten already. The pasting of it here seems to indicate the right are feeling threatened as a whole. Which is entirely understandable .
on 18-09-2013 11:23 AM
shorten wont get in
centrebet odds
Bill Shorten 3.50
Anthony Albanese 1.28
on 18-09-2013 02:55 PM
on 18-09-2013 03:03 PM
what the Government is up to.
well they were sworn in about 4 hous ago
anything else?
on 18-09-2013 03:12 PM
what the government is up to also applies to their intentions and their actions up to and including the time they were sworn in. It's not as if they were sitting on their hands waiting for their cup of tea with the GG before they started making plans. Sorry if you took the term government too literally *ibis, my apologies for the confusion.
on 18-09-2013 03:21 PM
@*ibis wrote:what the Government is up to.
well they were sworn in about 4 hous ago
anything else?
Mr Whitlam didn't hang around waiting for a full ministry to be sworn in.
The duumvirate – ministry of two
On 5 December 1972 Whitlam became the first Labor Prime Minister since 1949. He and Deputy Prime Minister Lance Barnard were sworn into all portfolios, Whitlam holding 13 and Barnard 14. It was a mini-ministry that was unique in Australian political history. The duumvirate made 40 significant decisions in its brief tenure, including the immediate release of all draft resisters, the removal of troops from Vietnam and the recognition of Communist China.
on 18-09-2013 09:19 PM
Why the concern silverfaun, surely you don't care either way? Or perhaps just a good excuse to use descriptive words you wouldn't use against the other side?
on 19-09-2013 09:20 AM
Whitlam???????????? the most incompetent chaotic govt & thrown out in a landslide. The fantasists & mythologizing on here by the labbies beggars belief.
Next we'll be served up the Rudd/Gillard/Rudd catastrophe as a shining time in Labor history.
This is the reason Conservatives are the rightful governers of this country, they are the preferred party by the majority of Australians.
The chaos & dysfunction, incompetent & dishonest activities of Labor shines through every single time they manage to slither into power. Then they screw it all up & the Conservatives are left to clean up their mess. Spreading their stuff everywhere then gloat & fantasize about how good they were.
Well guess what?? they are gone & will be gone for years. Australians will never forget this Labor failure, they will not forgive Labor, they don't appeal to the working people of this country anymore, they are out of touch & out of date.
on 19-09-2013 09:25 AM
@silverfaun wrote:Whitlam???????????? the most incompetent chaotic govt & thrown out in a landslide. The fantasists & mythologizing on here by the labbies beggars belief.
Next we'll be served up the Rudd/Gillard/Rudd catastrophe as a shining time in Labor history.
This is the reason Conservatives are the rightful governers of this country, they are the preferred party by the majority of Australians.
The chaos & dysfunction, incompetent & dishonest activities of Labor shines through every single time they manage to slither into power. Then they screw it all up & the Conservatives are left to clean up their mess. Spreading their stuff everywhere then gloat & fantasize about how good they were.
Well guess what?? they are gone & will be gone for years. Australians will never forget this Labor failure, they will not forgive Labor, they don't appeal to the working people of this country anymore, they are out of touch & out of date.
i think you'll find they are focusing on the latest failure, your guy tone. all of his asylum policies imploded yesterday, hows he going to deal with that ?