on โ18-09-2013 10:46 AM
If Labor elect Bill Shorten as leader then they deserve everything they get.
Bill Shorten the machine man, the union heavy, the man who destroyed 2 sitting Prime Minister's reign & betrayed his own support base, the man who engineered the worst failures of govt. in history because of his machinations.
A charmless, dull, short tempered man, a man who will bring nothing to the leadership & will ensure Labor stay out of contention for more than 2 terms.
He is from the right faction & ordinarily I would prefer that (see the left socialist Gillard disaster) but a more popular man like Albanese is more palatable even though he is steeped in the left faction.
Albanese looks like a shoo in as his left faction support in the rank & file is enormous but he may not get the support of the caucus.
What is ahead for Labor if the caucus elect Short Fuse Shorten but he is defeated by the rank & file? will it mean more instability because the caucus will not have supported the winner Albanese ie. his caucus didn't want him!
on โ20-09-2013 07:52 AM
Don't forget the majority includes preferences............
on โ20-09-2013 07:53 AM
Silverfaun wrote:Australians
will never forget this Labor failure,
they will not forgive Labor,
they don't appeal to the working people of this country anymore,
they are out of touch & out of date.
This is how YOU want it to be now and in the future rather than how it really is now and may be in the future.
on โ20-09-2013 07:55 AM
I am one Australian who proves all of your remarks about 'Australians' are incorrect
on โ20-09-2013 07:58 AM
have you had your coffee yet?
on โ20-09-2013 12:46 PM
I see the "clique" is at it full on here today.
Semantics aside, hope you're all happy now.
on โ20-09-2013 01:25 PM
on โ26-09-2013 06:25 AM
Cranky Bill at it again being rude arrogant & elitist to a cabbie whilst trying to set up soft questions for himself, trying to make himself look caring schooling a stooge in the audience at the debate.
Well nothing has changed there so it seems, still the shifty machinations & lies from Bill & his cohorts.
Bill wants to be the Prime Monister (sic) for the powerless?? what about the rest of Australia? isn't that what Tony Abbott said? "he wants to be Prime Minister for ALL Australians, leaving no body behind, leaving nobody out".
Labor, thrashing about with this ludicrous primary whilst leaving the dim witted Bowen to be their mouthpiece. All about them, all about power, all about the way to get it again. Isn't that what brought them down?
on โ26-09-2013 07:26 AM
I didn't make a statement about ALL Australians either, my opinion is that the majority of australians repudiated Labor and all it stood for these last 6 years.
Actually the MAJORITY of Australians voted in favour of Labor on primary votes by 1.4% ahead of the Liberals. They are in because of the Nationals merger and because they attract the preferences from the lunatic right wing parties.
on โ26-09-2013 03:01 PM
Wow, still in denial.
on โ26-09-2013 04:19 PM
really? you have not come to terms with it yet?