Boycott Bali

[idlewhile]

If the horrific murder of two Australians is carried out then we should boycott Bali and all things Indonesian.

We gave over a $billion dollars to this country after the tsunami, we prop then up with foreign aid and they spit in our faces.

They have  ignored all diplomatic attempts to mitigate their sentences and Watta a Joko has now signed the order to send them to the "killing Island" wouldn't want to kill them on Bali now would they, might upset the tourism business.

I'm appalled and disgusted, scared and frightened for these men and heartsick for their families.

[polksaladallie]

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@the_hawk* wrote:

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@azureline** wrote:

They are not the first are they?

Execution is not murder, it's the sentence they were given, with the full cooperation of the AFP, who had ample opportunity to stop it before it happened. Boycott them?

I am not in favour of the death penalty in any circumstances.

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The sentence needs to fit the crime, these couriers are only greedy people wanting to make a quick $,

the real criminals are the drug lords that are protected by a corrupt police force and Government.

They are the ones that should be dealt with harshly, but corruption and pay offs protect them

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The "drug lords" as you term them, are in Australia.  So who is protecting them?

Are you saying that the Australian government, and Australian police forces are corrupt?

[cherry*135]

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@the_hawk* wrote:

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The sentence needs to fit the crime, these couriers are only greedy people wanting to make a quick $,

the real criminals are the drug lords that are protected by a corrupt police force and Government.

They are the ones that should be dealt with harshly, but corruption and pay offs protect them

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AFP didn't manage to catch them though.. The suspected (by AFP) brain behind this, won $5m in lotto, lives in luxury in Sydney, and reportedly gave up crime after winning lotto.

[the_hawk*]

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@am*3 wrote:

Who is going to enforce the boycott? Australian Govt?  Not their position to tell people where they can go on their holidays ( except give advice warnings for countries where tourists can be in dangerous conditions)

What is the point of this thread? Telling posters here to Boycott Bali? Fat lot of difference that would make, to the very high number of Australians holidaying there.

Boycott Bali

Boycott halal certification

etc, etc.. all noise

I have never been to Bali and don't intend to. I wouldn't expect everyone else to do the same though.

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No one can enforce a boycott.

It up to individuals who feel strongly about something they dont aprove of to do it by choice. 

If you want to go to Bali then go,  if you want to protest in your own way then dont.

[the_hawk*]

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@polksaladallie wrote:

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@the_hawk* wrote:

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@azureline** wrote:

They are not the first are they?

Execution is not murder, it's the sentence they were given, with the full cooperation of the AFP, who had ample opportunity to stop it before it happened. Boycott them?

I am not in favour of the death penalty in any circumstances.

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The sentence needs to fit the crime, these couriers are only greedy people wanting to make a quick $,

the real criminals are the drug lords that are protected by a corrupt police force and Government.

They are the ones that should be dealt with harshly, but corruption and pay offs protect them

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The "drug lords" as you term them, are in Australia.  So who is protecting them?

Are you saying that the Australian government, and Australian police forces are corrupt?

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So who do you think these couriers are getting there drugs from in Bali

[lyndal1838]

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@***super_nova*** wrote:

I think we should boycott all countries that still have death penalty.  It would not leave many of favorite holiday destinations though.  So lets just only boycott those who kill Australians, right.

Execution is a murder, it is a government sanctioned but still murder.

murder

ˈməːdə/

noun

noun: murder; plural noun: murders

1. 1.

   the unlawful premeditated killing of one human being by another.

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What is unlawful about the executions in Indonesia....they comply with the laws of that land, whether we agree with them or not.

As for boycotting Indonesia/Bali, I have been doing that since the 1960s.   I was friendly with a number of Indonesian students who were studying in Australia and the stories they told of the way the government treated it's own people made me think that it was not a place to visit no matter how beautiful it was.

Most of those students became "professional students" to avoid going home for as long as possible.  No matter whether their education was paid for by the Indonesian government or their own families they had to work for the government for many years once they went home.

Several of them managed to leave Indonesia eventually but those that did not leave just "disappeared" off the face of the earth.

[para-slights]

I'm not sure boycotting a country will do, I hate to punish the people of a country financially over the actions of their government but I've never believed in capital punishment even as a child but there's often little choice for people toi hit the decision makers especially outside polls, elections and especially in another country

[vicr3000]

As said by others, it is not really Bali, more Indonesia.

Boycott Indonesia if anything if you feel strongly about it.

The Indo gov't has always had a reputation for being heavy handed, shoot first, ask questions later (if at all).

Re the AFP knowing who the mastermind is, the Police know a lot of things about crims but arresting them

and trying them in a court needs evidence, not always easy to come by.

Same as the criminals in Victoria, they know who they all are so when they started killing themselves,

no one was too concerned, until it was done in a very public place in front of children.

[polksaladallie]

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@the_hawk* wrote:

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@polksaladallie wrote:

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@the_hawk* wrote:

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@azureline** wrote:

They are not the first are they?

Execution is not murder, it's the sentence they were given, with the full cooperation of the AFP, who had ample opportunity to stop it before it happened. Boycott them?

I am not in favour of the death penalty in any circumstances.

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The sentence needs to fit the crime, these couriers are only greedy people wanting to make a quick $,

the real criminals are the drug lords that are protected by a corrupt police force and Government.

They are the ones that should be dealt with harshly, but corruption and pay offs protect them

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The "drug lords" as you term them, are in Australia.  So who is protecting them?

Are you saying that the Australian government, and Australian police forces are corrupt?

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So who do you think these couriers are getting there drugs from in Bali

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Whoever the Australian boss had arranged to do so.

People would be very surprised at how high up in Australian society some of them are.

[polksaladallie]

Re that family, to quote someone else, "You choose the behaviour, you choose the consequences".  They had been enabling and bailing the boy out for several years, instead of manning up and dealing with his behaviour.  They made a feeble attempt to stop his travel, but way too late.  Years too late.

[***super_nova***]

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@polksaladallie wrote:

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The "drug lords" as you term them, are in Australia.  So who is protecting them?

Are you saying that the Australian government, and Australian police forces are corrupt?

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They are business men with many other interests; for them it is an investment, they keep their distance, they do not get their hands dirty.  Just like during prohibition in the USA, the people who made their fortune on bootleg booze became the pillars of the society.  Kennedys for instance.