on โ13-02-2015 01:02 PM
If the horrific murder of two Australians is carried out then we should boycott Bali and all things Indonesian.
We gave over a $billion dollars to this country after the tsunami, we prop then up with foreign aid and they spit in our faces.
They have ignored all diplomatic attempts to mitigate their sentences and Watta a Joko has now signed the order to send them to the "killing Island" wouldn't want to kill them on Bali now would they, might upset the tourism business.
I'm appalled and disgusted, scared and frightened for these men and heartsick for their families.
on โ26-02-2015 08:08 PM
@opmania wrote:I think the Indonesian Gov.
is sending a very clear picture to Australians
you are welcome to visit our country but when you are here do the right thing by us
Now there is not one person in Australia that does not know that
"if you are dealing drugs in our country you will be Executed "
How long has Indonesia put up with the outrageous behavour of many Australians on a Cheap holiday
and a quick fix .Many people just getting their rocks off at the expensive of the Indonesian people
Some may call it helping them out with the Australian tourist dollars .Others may call it exploitation .
I'm not surprised someone else suggested they won't miss our tourist dollars of those who Boycott.
on โ26-02-2015 09:02 PM
i think we need to acceot the inevitable.
do the crime do the time
BUT, while i say that, i think there is much more humane ways to put a person to death
a firing squad tears the body apart.
i know theres some contraversy about failed and botched executions in the us, but there just has to be a less violent and
bloody end to these 2lives and the other stupid mugs caught in indonesia peddling, using or transporting drugs
on โ26-02-2015 09:06 PM
on โ27-02-2015 12:37 AM
I returned from a week in Bali yesterday. I was astonished how many Balinese people I met who apologised for the pending Jokowi ordered executions. I did not meet any Balinese person in 7 days who thought these two should be executed after being on death row for 10 years, but that said, apart from that particular policy, everyone was happy with his performance thus far, in particular his efforts to stamp out corruption. I am not stupid enough to think there are not people who dislike him and his policies, but we did not meet any of them.
I stayed in Sanur. Same as the last few times we have stayed there over the past few years, almost no Australians are there, in comparison to earlier years. Many Chinese, Koreans, Taiwanese and from the European bloc. I doubt that an Australian boycott of Bali will be much noticed in view of the greatly increased number of visitors from other countries.
As someone who is opposed to the death penalty anywhere, and particularly after the inmates have been on death row for 10 years, I will boycott Bali for a time - that act is much less about Bali than it is about me - I think you should stand up (or boycott) for what you believe, and I intend to, but I expect it's effect to be nil to anyone else except me - it is about self respect and knowing what you do or dont believe in.
Tourism and foreign aid are separate entities. IMO and despite my own boycott if this atrocity goes ahead, I fervently hope Australia continues to provide humanitarian aid to whomever needs it, be it in Bali or anywhere else.
I always kill threads stone dead, so for anyone sick of this topic, you owe me big time.
on โ27-02-2015 07:50 AM
on โ27-02-2015 07:51 AM
http://www.thebalitimes.com/2015/02/23/australian-tourists-voice-disapproval-to-tourism-boycott/
on โ27-02-2015 07:53 AM
It seems that those who travel to Bali.........will not be Boycotting Bali.
on โ27-02-2015 07:54 AM
That would have been an intereting conversation the other day between Abbott and the President.
on โ27-02-2015 08:00 AM
@womblewa wrote:I returned from a week in Bali yesterday. I was astonished how many Balinese people I met who apologised for the pending Jokowi ordered executions. I did not meet any Balinese person in 7 days who thought these two should be executed after being on death row for 10 years, but that said, apart from that particular policy, everyone was happy with his performance thus far, in particular his efforts to stamp out corruption. I am not stupid enough to think there are not people who dislike him and his policies, but we did not meet any of them.
I stayed in Sanur. Same as the last few times we have stayed there over the past few years, almost no Australians are there, in comparison to earlier years. Many Chinese, Koreans, Taiwanese and from the European bloc. I doubt that an Australian boycott of Bali will be much noticed in view of the greatly increased number of visitors from other countries.
As someone who is opposed to the death penalty anywhere, and particularly after the inmates have been on death row for 10 years, I will boycott Bali for a time - that act is much less about Bali than it is about me - I think you should stand up (or boycott) for what you believe, and I intend to, but I expect it's effect to be nil to anyone else except me - it is about self respect and knowing what you do or dont believe in.
Tourism and foreign aid are separate entities. IMO and despite my own boycott if this atrocity goes ahead, I fervently hope Australia continues to provide humanitarian aid to whomever needs it, be it in Bali or anywhere else.
I always kill threads stone dead, so for anyone sick of this topic, you owe me big time.
100% agree with you re the boycott of Bali and Indonesia. as for it being a thread killer well that's your opinion and your welcome to it but why you want to is passing strange.
This thread is and will always be about state sanctioned murder in the most horrific manner (is there any other manner ?) and most of the people on this thread do not agree with it and have said so.
There is a glimmer of hope, just a glimmer, that the Indo's may be trying to find a way not to totally offend Australia and its people and the concocted delays show that.
The work done under the radar has been massive and pointing out what a good friend Australia is and always has been is part of the diplomatic world and it sit's well with Australians who are fed up with propping up a regime who is rotten to the core with corruption, intends to kill Australians and any other foreign national, that was the political platform of a politician trying to get elected and that, in itself, is appalling on all levels.
on โ27-02-2015 08:05 AM
idle
"The work done under the radar has been massive"
I think you are spot on there. Even though some posters made snide remarks when I commented on this earlier in the thread
because they couldn't believe the Abbott Gov't would work hard behind the scenes.
A lot of favours are likely to have been called in, political, military.