Brexit - Yes or No?

Warnings about global economic fallout if Britain votes to leave the European Union are reaching fever pitch a day out from the so-called Brexit referendum.

 

In an op-ed in the Guardian, billionaire currency trader George Soros said a "Leave" vote could severely damage British living standards and potentially trigger a major crash in the British pound.

 

Economists divided on Brexit

BlackRock managing director and global chief investment strategist Richard Turnill said if Britain does exit, he expected to see volatility and significant declines in the Sterling.

 

"We expect to see significant declines in domestic UK assets, particularly smaller, mid-cap equities, but actually as you've seen over the last few days, the volatility I think is going to extend to broader European assets and global assets. I think you'll see flows into safe havens in the event of an exit, back into treasuries, back into gold," Mr Turnill said.

 

But British economist Roger Bootle, the founder of Capital Economics disagreed, arguing the UK would not be necessarily worse off if it left the EU.

 

"It's not going to be a case of European politicians saying to their own industries and to us we can't trade, that would be illegal under WTO rules," Mr Bootle said.

 

"It's going to be a matter of the EU if worse comes to worse, treating us exactly as they treat all sorts of countries around the world, including the United States, India, China, Japan, etc."

 

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-06-22/warnings-about-global-economic-fall-out-of-brexit-reaches-feve...

 

My son, who lives in England and works in the finance sector in London, wants England to stay in the EU. I say they should leave. We've been sending each other terse emails.

 

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I think it was a vote for common sense. What a great day for England, out of the UK and Cameron going too.

 

It's not about 'sharing', it is about autonomy. The ability to make your own laws, determine your own immigration policies.

As a member of EU, the UK was being dictated to by people who weren't directly elected by the British people.

 

Being independent doesn't mean the UK can't be compassionate, it just means they will make the decisions.

That's the way it should be.

The sky won't fall in. It will take a little while for things to settle down but one of England's main trading partners, from memory, is USA and they aren't in the EU anyway.

They won't lose that trade because guess what it is they are selling?

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Excellent post, Springs. Unfortunately I can only give you one Kudo, but it would be more if I could.

 

Now, since you're nearest, could you please shove an 'l' in Wilma for me ? Cheers !                    

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people just do not learn, they will vote for anything recommended by anybody who tells them they are better than others and agrees with anything they want  😞

 

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Voltaire: “Those Who Can Make You Believe Absurdities, Can Make You Commit Atrocities” .
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@electric*mayhem*band wrote:

MORE BREAKING NEWS...assuming you're interested.

 

Nicola 'Lady Macbeth/Typhoid Mary' Sturgeon has just called for a referendum for the Kilt Swingers o'er the Borders.

 

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Neither do the 62% of scots who voted to stay in the EU.   And I don't think her looks come into it (as eloquently described in one of your later posts).    She is a strong voice and has lot of support, if not yours. 

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Super nova said:

people just do not learn, they will vote for anything recommended by anybody who tells them they are better than others and agrees with anything they want 

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I don't think it happened in this case.

Look at it this way: In almost every referendum ever held, people tend to vote to maintain the status quo.

People, on the whole, are afraid of change.

 

The fact that the exit vote actually got up proves not that they will vote for 'anything' but that there were a lot of deeply unhappy citizens.

You say they will vote for anything recommended by anybody. Over the last few weeks, some of the politicians there have been intimating that the sky would fall in, that it would virtually be the start of WW3, the plague, you name it, if they dared to leave the EU.

 

Yet people chose to go against that recommendation.

 

Does it mean they think they are better than anyone else? No, I don't see it that way. They want to have more autonomy. There's nothing wrong with that. One of the last leaders hell bent on having everyone the same, under the same laws & rules, was Hitler and that didn't work out so well.

I'm not saying the EU is like Hitler, just that big isn't necessarily better. The EU has gone from a common market to a bit of a social experiment & I'd say there is big trouble brewing in Europe.

 

Also, keep in mind nothing stays the same forever. Not Britain, not the EU.

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'some of the politicians there have been intimating that the sky would fall in, that it would virtually be the start of WW3, the plague, you name it, if they dared to leave the EU.'

 

and dont forget people will be marrying their pets.

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@***super_nova*** wrote:

people just do not learn, they will vote for anything recommended by anybody who tells them they are better than others and agrees with anything they want  😞


Bit of a disingenuous remark if you don't mind me saying so. Whinging Poms we may be, but sheep we aren't. Australia governs itself, you have no super power blue pencilling everything your government decrees. That isn't the case here. We have control over nothing, zilch, zero. This is all undertaken by the bureaucratic, interfering, and unelected directors of the EU.

 

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Neither do the 62% of scots who voted to stay in the EU.   And I don't think her looks come into it (as eloquently described in one of your later posts).    She is a strong voice and has lot of support, if not yours. 

 

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The trouble with half of the Scots is that they do not want to be part of the UK. They want their own independence, hence their 2014 stab at getting it, which failed. Now they are using the EU referendum to try once more, spearheaded by the megolomaniac Sturgeon. If it hadn't been the EU, she'd have found another excuse before very long to resume the batte. If I had the powers of Harry Potter, I'd cut along Hadrian's Wall with a sharp pair of scissors, and shove the top half of the map out into the Atlantic. But this means that the contented ones have to suffer.

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P.S.

 

And while I'm still here, my post @ #22 re the rabid Kangaroo was in reference to post #20. What the Hell was that all about ?

 

If someone could please decipher it for me, maybe that would help.

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hahah I dont even live in Australia 🙂

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