on 28-09-2013 09:43 AM
Lots of broken promises are made by governments. If the promises are broken because of economic need, I understand.
But what of the empty promises that they know they can never keep. Like the 'Stop the Boats' promise?
Or this one: where Abbott promised at the Garma festival in the weeks leading up to the election that he would spend his first week as Prime Minister in Yolgnu country.
To break promises like this is just a low act by someone who knew he would never be able to keep it.
See where he says it clearly here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1OKujvU2wQ
I wouldn't bother to listen to the whole boring speech (although many of his off the cuff comments are a little eyebrow raising) but at 21:40 he starts making promises he can't keep.
on 28-09-2013 04:24 PM
@izabsmiling wrote:anyone who doesn't understand what the hung parliament meant..
could understandably believe that as Tony Abbott and others continually said/reported "she lied about the carbon tax'
was it well hung?
on 28-09-2013 04:27 PM
Not in Abbotts case - I've seen him in those bike shorts...
on 28-09-2013 04:37 PM
Nothing to worry about......
on 28-09-2013 04:47 PM
@i-need-a-martini wrote:Not in Abbotts case - I've seen him in those bike shorts...
LOL
care to elaberate?
on 28-09-2013 04:52 PM
crikey:I don't think Mr Abbott will lose his position over anything to do with the boats. Nor do I believe that he secured the position over anything that he said about stopping the boats. I do not believe that people voted for his party for that reason.
I have a differing view to that... that policy (or 3 word slogan) was aimed at getting vote from racists..the ones that say.. the boat people are taking jobs off Australians and in the next breath they say the boat people don't work and live on benefits etc (can't do both, now can they?)
The debate around asylum seekers has always been framed around the undeclared racism that infects so much of Australia. John Howard's line, "We will decide who comes to this country and the circumstances in which they come", worked powerfully on those who suspected filthy foreigners were trying to overtake good upstanding Australia.
ABC, The Drum
on 28-09-2013 04:54 PM
on 28-09-2013 04:57 PM
@izabsmiling wrote:
@poddster wrote:Are you saying that the PM at time was not the leader of the government???
Amazing !!!!
Poddster , as Ian Robinson reported
Although in general it is not commendable to break commitments, it is not even clear that this is what has happened.
The Prime Minister's commitment not to introduce a tax on carbon was implicitly premised on her being in a position to keep the commitment, by leading a majority government after the election.
This didn't happen, so her pre-election commitment was effectively null and void.
Instead, she found herself in a minority government in which she was not in total control of all the outcomes. She therefore had to work out a compromise with the other stakeholders.
Abbott is reported as saying during the post-election negotiations that he would ''do anything'' to be prime minister. This implies that he, too, would have accepted a carbon tax as part of a minority government compromise.
Perhaps in hindsight the Prime Minister could have made the limitation to her commitment clearer by saying there would be no carbon tax under ''a majority government led by me''.
Mein Kampf? Really? Is that where you got your idea about our PM being a dictator?
Nazi analogies don't usually receive positive reactions and should not be tolerated, to say the least.
on 28-09-2013 04:57 PM
aimed at getting vote from racists
on 28-09-2013 04:59 PM
The former Labor Party's leaders in action. ^^^
or maybe this one - whose turn is it today? Pick me, I'll have a shot at it for a while....
"Here I am, pick me"
*Runs >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
on 28-09-2013 05:01 PM
@**meep** wrote:
@izabsmiling wrote:
@poddster wrote:Are you saying that the PM at time was not the leader of the government???
Amazing !!!!
Poddster , as Ian Robinson reported
Although in general it is not commendable to break commitments, it is not even clear that this is what has happened.
The Prime Minister's commitment not to introduce a tax on carbon was implicitly premised on her being in a position to keep the commitment, by leading a majority government after the election.
This didn't happen, so her pre-election commitment was effectively null and void.
Instead, she found herself in a minority government in which she was not in total control of all the outcomes. She therefore had to work out a compromise with the other stakeholders.
Abbott is reported as saying during the post-election negotiations that he would ''do anything'' to be prime minister. This implies that he, too, would have accepted a carbon tax as part of a minority government compromise.
Perhaps in hindsight the Prime Minister could have made the limitation to her commitment clearer by saying there would be no carbon tax under ''a majority government led by me''.
Mein Kampf? Really? Is that where you got your idea about our PM being a dictator?
Nazi analogies don't usually receive positive reactions and should not be tolerated, to say the least.
Does this mean the thread has now been Godwined and this applies?