Buy My "Yes" Vote

[icyfroth]

Warnings have been issued to the eBay seller trying to flog their say in the same-sex marriage postal survey for $1500.

 

A Sydneysider who is selling their ballot paper on the same-sex marriage postal survey has been warned they face possible jail time or a $2000 fine, with an independent senator saying it's making a mockery of the exercise.

The eBay listing, which has been taken down, was published on September 18 and titled, Buy My Vote.

The bid started at $1500.

"What is this plebiscite worth to you", the seller writes in the ad description.

"The reason I'm selling my vote is because either way I don't care, but thought there are people who do."

The seller promises part of the proceeds of the auction will go to help kids battling cancer.

The Australian Bueau Of Statistics, which is conducting the survey, told SBS World News it considers any submission of a survey response that's been bought or sold a criminal offence.

The offence against the Census and Statistics Act 1905 carries a maximum penalty of $2,100. The Criminal Code offence carries a maximum penalty of 12 months imprisonment,” a spokesman said.

http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/2017/09/08/same-sex-marriage-sydneysider-slammed-hawking-vote-eba...

No way this plebiscite is going to truly reflect the opinion of the general public. It's going to be so skewed.

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[springyzone]

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@not_for_sale2017 wrote:

I've read that some genetic experts think the male gender is on the road to extinction. This is because the male Y chromosome is slowly shrinking and will eventually fade away.

I hope the same sex marriage issue is resolved before then. Gay will become the new straight. Maybe the then Government will have to call a plebiscite to seek the women's opinions on whether they should be allowed to marry each other. Wouldn't that be interesting!

Footnote: The experts think men won't be needed to reproduce long before they become extinct. So the procreation argument will be irrelevant.

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If the Y chromosome is shrinking, I would be worried about environmental factors. There's also been an absolute avalanche of anaphylaxis & other allergies with young children. The turning point must have been mid '90s as it hit the schools about 2000.

Something is wrong-either in our food or environment or maybe a combination.

But as for reproduction. I live in an area where over 50% of the residents were born overseas. Many of those foreign residents are highly religious. They tend to be either highly religious christians(not catholic) or muslims. I worked in a school & we found that both those groups tended to have large families. I doubt it is a religious mandate or anything but it definitely is their cultural preference. Many of those families had at least 4 children and 5-7 was not uncommon.

Amongst Australian born or not so religious, it tended to be more 2 children families.

My conclusion is that within a couple of generations (as long as the Y chromosome is still around) the mood will swing around & society may become more conservative rather than less, as these groups will start to have a majority in society.

[imastawka]

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@not_for_sale2017 wrote:

I've read that some genetic experts think the male gender is on the road to extinction. This is because the male Y chromosome is slowly shrinking and will eventually fade away.

I hope the same sex marriage issue is resolved before then. Gay will become the new straight. Maybe the then Government will have to call a plebiscite to seek the women's opinions on whether they should be allowed to marry each other. Wouldn't that be interesting!

Footnote: The experts think men won't be needed to reproduce long before they become extinct. So the procreation argument will be irrelevant.

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???????

Gay is gay - men or women.  

This plebiscite is not just for men to marry each other,  but for all gays.

[davidc4430]

i'm pretty sure unlike a cold you can't catch gay by being close to a gay person.

even if you make your son wear a dress (scotland comes to mind) he wont magically become gay.

[not_for_sale2025]

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@imastawka wrote:

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@not_for_sale2017 wrote:

I've read that some genetic experts think the male gender is on the road to extinction. This is because the male Y chromosome is slowly shrinking and will eventually fade away.

I hope the same sex marriage issue is resolved before then. Gay will become the new straight. Maybe the then Government will have to call a plebiscite to seek the women's opinions on whether they should be allowed to marry each other. Wouldn't that be interesting!

Footnote: The experts think men won't be needed to reproduce long before they become extinct. So the procreation argument will be irrelevant.

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???????

Gay is gay - men or women.  

This plebiscite is not just for men to marry each other,  but for all gays.

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LOL imastawka, but I made reference to the future where, if the genetic experts are correct, there will only be women.

[imastawka]

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@davidc4430 wrote:

i'm pretty sure unlike a cold you can't catch gay by being close to a gay person.

even if you make your son wear a dress (scotland comes to mind) he wont magically become gay.

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What are you talking about, David?

I was just stating the bleeding obvious that gay is both women and men and the

plebiscite is for both.

After all, it's for Same S e x Marriage.

[not_for_sale2025]

Hi springyzone.

I know a lady who is a Midwife. She recently talked about the average number of children Australian women have compared to some immigrant women. The numbers she quoted were very similar to yours.

There is a documentary series currently showing on Foxtel called Year Million. Amongst other things, it is looking at the advances in science and the possible consequences if science fiction becomes science fact. They are predicting, with a degree of confidence, that we may eventually be able to digitally download our consciousness into an artificial, but virtually indestructible body. They believe robots may develop self-awareness long before that happens, and question whether they might interfere with our plans. The unnerving thing is they are not talking about the very distant future. It is possible that future history books will refer to the Australian plebiscite of 2017 as archaic and irrelevant.

Below is a link to one article about the Y chromosome. It suggests the chromosome won't die out for millions of years. But I am wondering what will happen along the way as it slowly erodes, if the genetic experts are correct. For example, will males become sterile long beforehand? There is already reference to the Y chromosome as "junk" and an "evolutionary accident".

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2302865/Is-end-men-Expert-predicts-males-extinct--say...

[davidc4430]

sorry stawks, not a comment aimed at you, just a general observation for those worried a change in the marriage laws with suddenly make people turn gay.

the TV ad running has a woman aluding to the idea her son could wear a dress to school.

so what i say, unless he is actually gay 1, he prolly wont wear the dress and 2, even if he does he wont suddenly find other boys attractive.

sorry again, i just clicked on the last comment to put in a reply. i'll be more careful in the future.

[imastawka]

Ta for the explanation, David.

Prob should have mentioned the ad though, then it may have made sense.

[davidc4430]

as we know, i often dont make sense lol

ideas just pop into my head and i start typing, with my one little finger