Buy My "Yes" Vote

[icyfroth]

Warnings have been issued to the eBay seller trying to flog their say in the same-sex marriage postal survey for $1500.

 

A Sydneysider who is selling their ballot paper on the same-sex marriage postal survey has been warned they face possible jail time or a $2000 fine, with an independent senator saying it's making a mockery of the exercise.

The eBay listing, which has been taken down, was published on September 18 and titled, Buy My Vote.

The bid started at $1500.

"What is this plebiscite worth to you", the seller writes in the ad description.

"The reason I'm selling my vote is because either way I don't care, but thought there are people who do."

The seller promises part of the proceeds of the auction will go to help kids battling cancer.

The Australian Bueau Of Statistics, which is conducting the survey, told SBS World News it considers any submission of a survey response that's been bought or sold a criminal offence.

The offence against the Census and Statistics Act 1905 carries a maximum penalty of $2,100. The Criminal Code offence carries a maximum penalty of 12 months imprisonment,” a spokesman said.

http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/2017/09/08/same-sex-marriage-sydneysider-slammed-hawking-vote-eba...

No way this plebiscite is going to truly reflect the opinion of the general public. It's going to be so skewed.

[chameleon54]

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@davidc4430 wrote:

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@chameleon54 wrote:

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I would be very suprised if some-one has not reported the use of the roundabout by SSM supporters to the relevant authorities. The problem is that the authorites would not be game to touch it, because the SSM supporters would scream " predjudice". It would be too politically difficult, so authorites turn a blind eye and SSM supporters are allowed to break the law.

Unfortunately if opponents of SSM did exactly the same thing, it is far more likely that they would be shut down and told to move on. Whilst I dont personally have a lot of time for the churches etc. I think in this case they are a signifigant section of the population and their views are based on genuine long held beliefs which should be treated with respect, even if you dont agree with them. This is not happening thus hypocrasy I was reffering to.

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i see this story not so much about the rights or wrongs of a display of SSM supporters carp as a story of how NOT to act when you disagree with something.

taking the LAW into your own hands by beating up anyone is never OK.

the fact this idiot belted someone who beyond thinking SSM is ok. he didnt create the display, hasnt been in the media decrying the NO voters. he as far as i know, was waiting for a bus. was seen by this creep whilst he was demolishing the display and went over and punched him in the face!

ok, he is against SSM, thats his right, but destroying the display, not his job.

hitting people, not his job.

if found he needs to be held acountable, in court!

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I get where you are coming from David and as my first post indicated, agree with you completely that it is not up to some idiot to remove the SSM flags and posters and then clobber a guy who happens to be nearby and questions what the idiot was doing.

I was simply going past the face value of the story to highlight how one small group has managed to manipulate the political process and media debate to the point where they are allowed to break the law in a way their opponents and any other group are not.

While I support the basic principle of SSM I am concerned at how our systems designed to protect basic values and equality for all  ( including those with differing views ) have been eroded by this one little minority group. It sets a dangerous precedent if their cause is succesful as a result of their activities.

[davidc4430]

are they breaking a 'law'?

i dont see a law being broken, i'm sure the 'NO' team could set up a similar display at another round-about if the wanted too.

peaceful demonstration should allways be OK

ive seen plenty of non-peaceful demonstrations on the news, usually the police going overboard and making themselves look bad.

golly gosh, the gay people have a parade in sydney every year, where are the anti-gay demonstrators then?

luckily this ordeal will be over in a few weeks and it'll be back to govt having to make a decision.....or not

[chameleon54]

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@davidc4430 wrote:

are they breaking a 'law'?

i dont see a law being broken, i'm sure the 'NO' team could set up a similar display at another round-about if the wanted too.

peaceful demonstration should allways be OK

ive seen plenty of non-peaceful demonstrations on the news, usually the police going overboard and making themselves look bad.

golly gosh, the gay people have a parade in sydney every year, where are the anti-gay demonstrators then?

luckily this ordeal will be over in a few weeks and it'll be back to govt having to make a decision.....or not

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In order to use public space for rallies and displays you first have to apply to council for a permit to use the space. This entails having public liability insurance and all of the other BS, red tape that goes along with public displays and gatherings.

There is no way in the world any council would give a permit to a group to set up on a busy roundabout where they would be distracting drivers and putting themeselves in danger, trying to dodge traffic to get to the roundabout. Also there is no way any insurance company would touch it, so yes this SSM group is breaking the law.

I suspect that is part of the problem with the issue you highlighted. When a small group is allowed to get away with breaking the law in a pretty stupid way and the authorities refuse to do anything about it, some people will take the law into their own hands. That is when things start to get messy and out of hand as we see in this incident. If the authorities had done their job and told the SSM marriage supporters to stage their rallies and displays in an appropriate place, this incident may not have occured.

[domino-710]

[bushies.girl]

and your point is??????   LOL

bty all means vote yes if the mood takes you but also have the good manners to allow others the have a different opinion to yours  .... or have no opinion at all

Some of us are over the whole thing

[lyndal1838]

Our papers arrived in the mail yesterday.  Will fill them in and post them on Monday....then I can ignore the whole thing until the results are announced.

[bushies.girl]

Ours have also been dealt with   ....

[domino-710]

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@bushies.girl wrote:

and your point is??????   LOL

bty all means vote yes if the mood takes you but also have the good manners to allow others the have a different opinion to yours  .... or have no opinion at all

Some of us are over the whole thing

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The Point

Simply - it has been discussed.

Been dealt with.

Now dig deep for a sense of humour.

[chameleon54]

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@davidc4430 wrote:

are they breaking a 'law'?

i dont see a law being broken, i'm sure the 'NO' team could set up a similar display at another round-about if the wanted too.

peaceful demonstration should allways be OK

ive seen plenty of non-peaceful demonstrations on the news, usually the police going overboard and making themselves look bad.

golly gosh, the gay people have a parade in sydney every year, where are the anti-gay demonstrators then?

luckily this ordeal will be over in a few weeks and it'll be back to govt having to make a decision.....or not

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https://www.brisbane.qld.gov.au/sites/default/files/20160621-_ca10171_notice_of_intention_to_hold_an...

Yes they are if they hav,nt lodged these forms, paid the fees and notified the Queensland police of their activities. Have they done all of this ???    We all know there is no way the police or council would approve the rallies and displays on a busy roundabout as it would be too dangerous and distracting for drivers and the people attending the rallies on the roundabout would be placing their own lives at risk, dodging busy traffic to get to the roundabout, .... SO YES, they are breaking the law.

Unfortunately when groups think they are "special" and laws that apply to everyone else, dont apply to them,  bad things can happen. Or as my mum used to say when we did really stupid things......... There will be tears before bedtime......

[not_for_sale2025]

I've read that some genetic experts think the male gender is on the road to extinction. This is because the male Y chromosome is slowly shrinking and will eventually fade away.

I hope the same sex marriage issue is resolved before then. Gay will become the new straight. Maybe the then Government will have to call a plebiscite to seek the women's opinions on whether they should be allowed to marry each other. Wouldn't that be interesting!

Footnote: The experts think men won't be needed to reproduce long before they become extinct. So the procreation argument will be irrelevant.