Bye, Bye Barnaby...

[the4masters2013]

Well I suppose it had to happen.

Barnaby Joyce announced his resignation at 2pm  today.

I haven't caught up with the fall out, yet.  It will be over all the news programs tonight..

Tony Abbott is still opening his mouth....I will be happy if he just shuts up for a little while!

If I were Malcolm Turnbull I may stay overseas for a bit longer!!

[bushies.girl]

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@chameleon54wrote:

pmsl@ ???..... Sorry bushie, not up with text talk. To quote that famous, wise and influencal Australian politician......

Spoiler

Pauline Hansen.......... Please explain.....!!!!.......

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Text talk? Never sent a text ion my life, dont even own a cell phone ( never have )

[myoclon1cjerk]

Barnaby should never have accepted that house rent free. He should have got Gina to pay for it. 🙂

[davidc4430]

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@freddie*roosterwrote:

Barnaby's response to young people struggling with the high

cost of housing was telling them to move to Armidale, because

the rent is cheap, while he himself couldn’t afford to pay rent in

Armidale and needed a mate to give him free rent.

It gets even worse when you remember that Joyce is on a salary

of almost $400,000 a year, and that’s before you account for the

generous allowances given to federal politicians. The hypocrisy

and gaul of this man is sickening.

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and because of barnys actions a section of the voting public now think ALL politicians are 'fiddling the books'

not just getting paid very handsomly to do a job but then taking 'gifts' on the side from undisclosed supporters.

its called corruption.

once one gets outed then suspicion falls on everyone.

i'm quite sure there are others 'up to things they would not want made public' on both sides of politics

but its the lib/coalition thats been caught up in this and the PM has handled it very poorly.

"no name calling was used in this post"

[tezza2844]

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@chameleon54wrote:

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@bushies.girlwrote:

I saw an interview re Live Trade Export, once these poor animals are gone from the farm, no one seems to care what happens to them   .... As one farmer said "Once the cheque is in my bank account, they are no longer my problem"    ...... says it all really 😞

Sheep aren't the most robust of animals, they can die at the "drop of hat" particularly if they are stressed, so goodness knows how many actually make it to their destination

It's all very well to continually bash the Labor Gov for the action they took re Live Trade, at least they tried to do something to alleviate the animals' suffering.

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When you are in government you should be taking reasoned, responsible actions to address problems such as those exposed in the live cattle industry, not act like a bunch of impulsive school kids. Sure you can come back with cheap retorts about decisions the Liberal party have made, but they havnt resulted in hundreds of thousands of animals suffering with many starving to death.

Your statement above that no-one cares once the cheque is in the bank, may be true for some farmers, but there are many other farmers who feel the way I do and have quietly refused to sell livestock to the trade. Its just that they dont get interviewed for the shock value media.

It is precisely because I care for the animals in my care that I am still so genuinely angry that thousands of cattle suffered terribly because of Labors ridiculously stupid actions.  To say " they tried to do something "  is a bit dis-ingenuous. What they tried to do was score a few cheap Greens type votes by jumping on a political band wagon and to he!! with the consequences for hundreds of thousands of cattle and the people who farm them.

Anyone with even a modicome of intelligence could see that to introduce an immediate ban on the export of cattle that had no-where else to go, with long term breeding programs and hundreds of thousands of animals already in the pipe line,  would have to quickly result in an animal crisis of immense proportions.

In response to your other post questioning what should have happened. Labor could have announced that due to the huge numbers of stock on Australias soil an immediate ban could not be implemented, but announce the industry would be phased out over a two year time frame. They could have announced that they would work urgently with the Australian food processing industry to ensure that new meat processing facilities would be built in the north to handle the stock that where currently being exported under the live ship trade and send trade delegations to our main consumer countries to sure up supply contracts for processed meat in replacement of live cattle & sheep. They could work with our recipient countries such as Indonesia to offer preferential treatment for foreign workers from those countries to enter Australia on 457 work visas to work in the processing facilities. Around half of Australias meat processing workers already come here on 457 visas as Australians are reluctant to work in the industry, so that would not be a biggy.

Actions of this nature would present the government as a stable, proffesional, responsible group who where taking firm but considered action on an important issue. Instead hundreds of thousands of animals suffered.  Where was the four corners story on the animal welfare crisis of monumental proportions created by the Gillard governments childish response to the live trade issues ???? The general public never heard a word about it. It was all hushed up as it didnt meet the leftist media's agenda. It was only the farmers who knew the true extent of the animal suffering that was occuring and frankly it probably wasnt in their interest to publicise the details either.

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[tezza2844]

Sorry about my last "post". What a time for a power out, but,


@ Cham wrote:

As for me not liking the Labor party. That is a bit of a generalisation. I have said on many occasions on these forums that I view politics as a pendulum. Labor introduce expensive, but needed social policies, blow the budget, but restore some humanity to Australias social policy. The liberals eventually get elected, restore some financial prudence to the budget bottom line,

Yes I know , it's all Labors fault

[chameleon54]

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@tezza2844wrote:

Sorry about my last "post". What a time for a power out, but,


@ Cham wrote:

As for me not liking the Labor party. That is a bit of a generalisation. I have said on many occasions on these forums that I view politics as a pendulum. Labor introduce expensive, but needed social policies, blow the budget, but restore some humanity to Australias social policy. The liberals eventually get elected, restore some financial prudence to the budget bottom line,

Yes I know , it's all Labors fault

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Nice to see we finally agree on something Tezza.....Any thinking person who is honest with themselves and have followed Labors unfunded spendathons knows it. ............ Gonski, NBN, NDIS.....All massive Labor programmes locked into future budgets through legislation but no funding allocated to pay for it ............Gross incompetance on a scale never seen before in Australian political history  !!!

[chameleon54]

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@davidc4430wrote:

there is a part of me that hope the libs win this time, just so we can see them stuff it up again.

mr marshall gives me no hope for the future in his speeches, hes promising under him all will sunshine and wine.

no tax hikes, no new taxes, no cuts, but there will be more spending and surpluses.

when asked how he will do these things he just says by better managment, yeah right.

if he wins, i give it about a month and it'll be 'oh boy, the state coffers are much worse than we thought. we wont be able to do the things we wanted to, but its labors fault'

i'm really sorry but we must cut spending, slash jobs, raise taxes.

and the people who voted him in will be the first to complain

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After 16 years of Labor government in S.A we regularly top the nation for unemployment figures, have some of the highest power prices in the world contributing to a collapse in our manufacturing industries and a crumbling road system that is going to cost a squillion to repair. A massively bloated public service ( nearly 30 % larger than all other states ) that is going to be very difficult to trim, the most stagnent population growth in the country, the fastest aging population in the country as our best & brightest leave for a better future interstate and a total reliance on charity from the other states to keep the piggy bank going through preferential GST  redistributions. This major source of revenue that has been bailing us out may dry up soon if other states get their way and there is no way new industries will come to SA when it has the highest business taxation rates in the country and we cant even keep the lights on !!!

PERHAPS THE LIBS WOULD SECRETLY PREFER TO LOOSE THE NEXT ELECTION AS THE STATE IS AN ABSOLUTE BASKET CASE......

[davidc4430]

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@chameleon54wrote:

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@davidc4430wrote:

there is a part of me that hope the libs win this time, just so we can see them stuff it up again.

mr marshall gives me no hope for the future in his speeches, hes promising under him all will sunshine and wine.

no tax hikes, no new taxes, no cuts, but there will be more spending and surpluses.

when asked how he will do these things he just says by better managment, yeah right.

if he wins, i give it about a month and it'll be 'oh boy, the state coffers are much worse than we thought. we wont be able to do the things we wanted to, but its labors fault'

i'm really sorry but we must cut spending, slash jobs, raise taxes.

and the people who voted him in will be the first to complain

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After 16 years of Labor government in S.A we regularly top the nation for unemployment figures, have some of the highest power prices in the world contributing to a collapse in our manufacturing industries and a crumbling road system that is going to cost a squillion to repair. A massively bloated public service ( nearly 30 % larger than all other states ) that is going to be very difficult to trim, the most stagnent population growth in the country, the fastest aging population in the country as our best & brightest leave for a better future interstate and a total reliance on charity from the other states to keep the piggy bank going through preferential GST  redistributions. This major source of revenue that has been bailing us out may dry up soon if other states get their way and there is no way new industries will come to SA when it has the highest business taxation rates in the country and we cant even keep the lights on !!!

PERHAPS THE LIBS WOULD SECRETLY PREFER TO LOOSE THE NEXT ELECTION AS THE STATE IS AN ABSOLUTE BASKET CASE......

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i cant disagree with much of what you say.

but i hear lots of reasons why we are in the state we are, yep, we were a state that relied a lot on our manufacturing sector that is all but gone now.

our mining is not what it once was, new mining that was on the drawing board has been shelved as the stuff to be mined is no longer a viable seller.

i wonder just what is here to offer any big business to come here?

just lowering a tax wont do it.

we have a big state with little to offer, you cant just blame labor for holdens shutting shop.

most of the big manufactorers that are no longer here did a holden, shifted off shore!

yes we have a very large public service sector, because this state is the cheapest to live in if your poor. so therefore we have more people serving the poor.

please point to what this state has to offer anyone to come here?

what new inovative future money spinner is there, to bring a company here to employ thousands?

thats why i say, vote mr marshall in by all means but dont kid yourself 1, that he will do the things he promises and 2 that in 4 years time we will be any better off than now.

yes, give him a go. please, and prove me wrong.

[myoclon1cjerk]

South Australia's been in the doldrums since the mid 70's. I was there when it started to unravel. Geographically it's in a bad spot (like Tasmania). It has no industry to speak of since Mitsubishi and GMH up and left.
The 3 eastern states are in a better position. Agriculture, mining, tourism, major events and of course they have the major hubs for finance,media, IT ,service industries and their ports for export/import. S.A could become a vibrant centre if Australia started to manufacture again but I can't ever see that happening, not in my lifetime anyway.
Places like the U.S Rustbelt have the same problem. Trump's promise to revitalise it will come to nothing. It's a different world now. China and India are in on the game and they're holding all the aces.

[davidc4430]

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@myoclon1cjerkwrote:
South Australia's been in the doldrums since the mid 70's. I was there when it started to unravel. Geographically it's in a bad spot (like Tasmania). It has no industry to speak of since Mitsubishi and GMH up and left.
The 3 eastern states are in a better position. Agriculture, mining, tourism, major events and of course they have the major hubs for finance,media, IT ,service industries and their ports for export/import. S.A could become a vibrant centre if Australia started to manufacture again but I can't ever see that happening, not in my lifetime anyway.
Places like the U.S Rustbelt have the same problem. Trump's promise to revitalise it will come to nothing. It's a different world now. China and India are in on the game and they're holding all the aces.

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you put it so much better than me, bout the only thing south australia has an abundance of is flies, aint nobody wants our flies lol

so to me, makes no difference if its labor or the libs, they cant make industry come here and set up shop.

yep, back in the 70s it was much better, we had lots of industies, plus a big commonweath defence joint at elizabeth that had about 5,000 workers, the raaf base too, its still there but its really shrunk.

there was a Levis jeans factory at elizabeth too.

we have the wine industry and wheat n barley type farming, but we also get lousy rainfall so we are most likely in for another drought soon. wont that screw things up?

and we got this submarine contract, if it ever gets to actually building the subs. rumors abound about the promised jobs will not happen. i dont trust mr pain, i mean pyne.

nope, i cant see where mr marshall is going to get all the money to give us all the stuff hes promising.

i just know once hes in power hes going to give us the 'omg the piggy banks empty' speech!