on 07-04-2014 11:59 AM
According to Jonathan Swan of the Sydney Morning Herald, when he asked Clive Palmer what his voting intentions will be in the forthcoming Senate, Palmer replied, "Make them suffer!".
That's it.
Clive's entire purpose for running for the two houses of parliament can be best summed up in his own three simple words; the biggest and most expensive dummy spit in Australian political history.
The banana bending billionaire was happy enough behind the scenes bankrolling Qld State LNP campaigns. He backed Campbell Newman for Premier.
Once Newman won office, Clive expected services to be rendered including special mining considerations by the new LNP state government. In particular, Clive demanded an immediate green light to build his own railway in Queensland's Galilee basin, but he was rejected in preference for two other rival mines.
Newman told Clive in so many words, as Premier he governed for Queensland - not just for one mining magnate.
The decision to grant the rail road to rivals cost Palmer millions and forced Clive to negotiate with others to gain rail access.
This was the catalyst for Palmer to launch his own political party.
So, okay, that explains Palmer's hatred for Newman, but what's with his hate for Shorten and Abbott?
The Shorten slag-offs can be simply explained by a dislike and despise for anything leftish which rubs against Clive's natural money making interests.
And Abbott?
A few years ago when Wayne Swan was an incompetent and divisive treasurer, he decided to go for the throats of the Australian mining billionaires and duly lumped Clive in as one of the 'billionaire activists' in The Monthly magazine, saying that politicians had a choice 'between standing up for workers and kneeling down at the feet of the Gina Rineharts and the Clive Palmers'.
Clive, in one of his characteristic dummy spits, responded by seeking LNP preselection for Swan's seat of Lilley to go head-to-head with the the hopelessly surplus-less Swan.
Interestingly, Clive said at the time, he supported Tony Abbott and wanted to see him become Prime Minister.
“I support him 100 per cent,” he said.
Problem for Clive was, then-opposition leader Tony Abbott didn't want or need a loud mouth, loose cannon Clive as part of his very disciplined team heading for an election win in just 18 months.
Abbott was, to put it mildly, very cool about endorsing Palmer for Lilley and made no secret about his concerns to the local preselection team. Abbott preferred a grassroots candidate who would 'do the hard yards'.
Clive was forced to withdraw his nomination (despite prematurely spending money on campaign material) retreating in humiliation.
Treasurer Swan had a field day, jeering Clive as 'gutless' and 'scared' to run when the truth was that Clive was never going to get endorsed (typical Swan who couldn't ever tell us the truth about an oft-promised surplus).
"After all his tough talk and his billboards, its utterly humiliating for Clive Palmer that he doesn't have the guts to run against me,'' crowed Swan.
Clive never forgot and hasn't ever forgiven Abbott.
Shortly after he started his own party, which is nothing more than a red-faced tantrum when Clive didn't get his way.
Nothing to do with serving the people. Nothing about policies.
The Palmer United Party is about payback, or in Clive's own words, "make them suffer."
That's an expensive pile of bile, Clive.
If you voted for Clive or consider doing so in a forthcoming election think about whether Clive or his candidates really do give a toss about representing you.
His record since the September 7 election shows he rarely personally turns up to the House of Reps to represent his constituents. He brushes it off by saying he's just one vote in the parliament so it doesn't make a difference. Really? What do his constituents think about not being represented by their representative?
The Palmer United Party has shown us there are enough naive, gullible and uneducated bogans, easily impressed by the word 'billionaire', who can be bought by expensive, superficial ads and media stunts.
Clive doesn't suffer fools easily, but he doesn't mind chasing their vote.
on 07-04-2014 12:15 PM
yes. looks like a lot of disgruntled conservatives prefer him to abbott.
i dont as the only real difference is measured in kilos the real question is can palmer keep the pup senators in line ? i'd say a split will come sooner rather than later once they get into the house. some want onshore proccessing (clive among them) nobody knows what muir and lambie want.. anything could happen..
07-04-2014 12:34 PM - edited 07-04-2014 12:37 PM
lakeland27 wrote:yes. looks like a lot of disgruntled conservatives prefer him to abbott.
And Labor 21.6% of the vote, not a pretty picture that one..
i dont as the only real difference is measured in kilos the real question is can palmer keep the pup senators in line ? i'd say a split will come sooner rather than later once they get into the house. some want onshore proccessing (clive among them) nobody knows what muir and lambie want.. anything could happen..
I just had to look out side to see if there was a blue moon...as I have to agree with you 100%
Muir I think is to low of an IQ and to much from boganville and Clive will dangle him on his string and control him totally. Muir will follow Clive like a little lap dog.
Lambie is the wild card as she ran with Clive for the $ only and has used him to get a seat in the senate and it will be interesting to see how long she stays before jumping ship and siding with the greens.
Lazarus.. well who knows as he has had a lot of hits to the head over the years and anything could happen with this one.
and then you have Wang, he isnt going to go against his bank roll as Clive owns most of his companies and Clive owns Wang.. Clive Palmer, founder of the Palmer United Party, is a significant investor in Australasian Resources[2] and has in recent months provided cash injections to save Australasian Resources (Wangs company) from insolvency
on 07-04-2014 04:40 PM
@lakeland27 wrote:yes. looks like a lot of disgruntled conservatives prefer him to abbott.
i dont as the only real difference is measured in kilos the real question is can palmer keep the pup senators in line ? i'd say a split will come sooner rather than later once they get into the house. some want onshore proccessing (clive among them) nobody knows what muir and lambie want.. anything could happen..
I saw the thread title and thought it was about Clive (obvious), Fools - abbott and co, Suffering - the workers, the unemployed, charities, the environment.......etc. It isn't.
on 07-04-2014 04:46 PM