COVID Is A SCAM

[icyfroth]

Hundreds of demonstrators across Australia have broken social distancing rules to protest against vaccinations, 5G and the coronavirus pandemic.   

Protesters gathered at the Royal Botanic Gardens in Melbourne on Saturday and claimed the global COVID-19 health crisis was a 'scam'.

There are more than five-million cases of coronavirus cases across the globe and at least 350,000 people have died. Australia has recorded more than 7,000 infections and the death toll sits at 103 following the successful implementation of social distancing restrictions. 

Brazen demonstrators also carried signs declaring they were against vaccines and 5G technology.

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/coronavirus/covid-19-is-a-scam-no-mandatory-vaccines-and-5g-equals-co...

Lol @ the anti-virus shields on the horses

[icyfroth]

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@lalbo-81 wrote:
You're quite amusing, but then, your type usually is. Yes, I know Dom from an America ebay board. Any other kudos given here went to the people whose posts made sense instead of making me giggle and wonder how much tin foil they go through for hats in a month.
And could you please tell me what " my more established ID is"? I didn't know I had one other than this one.
To be perfectly honest, I couldn't care less whether you respect me or not. What matters to me is that I don't respect you, or any other source of conspiracy drivel on any board. I'm quite sure Dom will back me up on that, since I made that clear in the past too.
By the way, I rather doubt you can tell me or anyone else here what they can post in any thread. I suggest that you don't try it again until you start getting paid to be a moderator.

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You seem to be very fond of the terms, "conspiracy drivel" and "conspiracy garbage".

 4channel has shown you some very valid examples of  true conspiracies between pharmaceuticals, doctors and government agencies in his posts 132 and 168, yet you persist with your "tin foil hat" taunts.

I find that very "old hat"...

[domino-710]

Where were we - oh yes - welcome to the board Lal. 

[dvd.horder]

youre right... we should be concerned

[4channel]

I don' t agree that half of us would be dead.

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@kazumi wrote:

It was just a phrase

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Fair enough I get what you mean now.

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@kazumi wrote:

I would not want to estimate how many of us would not be here without antibiotics. BUT before antibiotics and before vaccinations many infants did not survive infancy. Then think how many times in your life you were given antibiotics for minor infection. Every one of them could have turn into pneumonia or gangrene. People used to die from minor scratches if they became infected.

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I have mixed feelings on antibiotics I think some are necessary no doubt. Sadly superbugs have now come to stay and with fighting them most antibiotics are useless.

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@kazumi wrote:

And pharmaceuticals are screened stringently. That is why it takes so long to develop vaccine or medications, and every country has its own way to approve drugs. i am not saying there is no corruption, but the pharmaceutical companies do not want to get sued either. However, at present there is lot of pressure to speed up the process, and that is worrying. Governments have to decided what is worse; the damage done by COVID19 and the lockdowns, or potential problems caused by the vaccine down the track.

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Sorry kazumi but I respectfully disagree with you there. Well, partially anyway. Some medications are tested properly and others are not. If you look at a previous post of mine (Post # 185 ) you'll see that there's corruption and short cuts.

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Candidate to Lead FDA Has Close Ties to Big Pharma
By Massimo Calabresi
February 19, 2015 5:00

https://time.com/3714242/candidate-to-lead-fda-has-close-ties-to-big-pharma/

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And sadly regulation and checks and balances are in the hands of people they shouldn't be.

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@kazumi wrote:

Governments do not wish to kill us or make us ill, especially government in countries with universal health systems paid for by the government. They do not want small business to go broke either. Politicians have nice income, but most would earn much more if they get jobs in private sector, and many will go back to private sector sometimes in future, and I am sure they hope it will be there for them to get jobs.

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Well gov'ts are not internationally doing it but with the dishonesty that exists coupled with the gross incompetence, people will die.

I watched Michael Moore's sicko and I was sickened by what I saw. Shame on the US for treating its Gulf War veterans the way they do.  I hate to say it but  Cuba in addition to having a vibrant culture has a health system that leaves the US one for dead.

Big Pharma has no interest in our deaths. Dead people no more make money for that industry any more than out of debt people do for the finance and credit card ind's. But people being perpetually unhealhy or mentally ill is a money spinner. The tragic death of Michael Jackson was a 10K loss per month for big pharma.

Anyway, I know that many of the protesters know these facts and it's definitely got them worried. I do understand.

[icyfroth]

4channel wrote:

"Big Pharma has no interest in our deaths. Dead people no more make money for that industry any more than out of debt people do for the finance and credit card ind's. But people being perpetually unhealhy or mentally ill is a money spinner. The tragic death of Michael Jackson was a 10K loss per month for big pharma."

Exactly, 4channel, and that includes unscrupulous doctors and aged care and health providers.

[4channel]

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@icyfroth wrote:

Exactly, 4channel, and that includes unscrupulous doctors and aged care and health providers.

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I 100% aagree icyfroth, and it's almost unfathomable that doctors and healthcare providers neglect their moral and legal duty but it is true!

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When Doctors Take 'Kickbacks' from Big Pharma

FORA.tv

121K subscribers

Dr. Otis Brawley, Chief Medical Officer of the American Cancer Society, gives an example of the occasionally serious unintended consequences that can occur when medical practitioners accept "kickbacks" from pharmaceutical companies.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vow93_XdZ-4

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How Doctors and Patients Do Harm

By Tara Parker-PopeApril 20, 2012 1:56 pm

Dr. Otis Brawley, chief medical officer for the American Cancer Society.Credit Christopher T. Martin

https://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/04/20/how-doctors-and-patients-do-harm/

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Otis Brawley is obviously a man of high moral standards and has true empathy. This gentleman  is not for sale!

I can see more why people out there protesting don't have a whole bag of faith in the system.

[jetho1680]

The facility where I am employed is a multilevel building and multilevel car park both with elevators.

Six weeks ago they restricted the elevators to 4 persons at a time.

The car park elevators are small, about 1.5 metres square, with main building ones about 2 metres square.

At a shopping centre today, 2 levels of underground parking with elevators.

The elevators are restricted to 2 people at a time and are much larger than the ones in the main building where I work and have a person on both levels enforcing the 2 person limit with people waiting.

I took the stairs which are only a few metres from the elevators. The stairs would be about 1.2 metres wide and people are walking up and down them, passing each other in opposite directions, but don't you dare have more than 2 people in a elevator, how ridiculous.

It is being made up as they go along and uniformity does not exist.

The same where I work, no uniformity with frequent changes.

OH was at the RSL club on Friday night, comes home and tells me they now have a couple of people roaming the club wearing Hi-Vis vests with "Covid Safety Officer" printed on them, checking that people are remaining seated unless you are going to the bar, cafe, restaurant, toilet etc, if you refuse or told more than once you are asked to leave the premises.

The touch screen gaming machines at the RSL are operating but the self serve photo machines at a BigW store have been shut down.

The reason, corona could be transferred to the touch screens.

The RSL must have installed Corona resistant screens on their gaming machines.

No wonder people are getting fed up and beginning to question what is being fed to them.

[4channel]

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@jetho1680 wrote:

The facility where I am employed is a multilevel building and multilevel car park both with elevators.

Six weeks ago they restricted the elevators to 4 persons at a time.

The car park elevators are small, about 1.5 metres square, with main building ones about 2 metres square.

At a shopping centre today, 2 levels of underground parking with elevators.

The elevators are restricted to 2 people at a time and are much larger than the ones in the main building where I work and have a person on both levels enforcing the 2 person limit with people waiting.

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I see what you mean. It does seem silly. Well it is! No restrictions on stairwells and get people passing each other while in a state of physical exertion inhaling and exhaling air more frequently and heavily and yet only 2 allowed in the elevators. I came across a similar scenario and a small car could have fit in  the elevator with room to spare and yet only 2 allowed.

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@jetho1680 wrote:

It is being made up as they go along and uniformity does not exist.

The same where I work, no uniformity with frequent changes.

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This certainly appears to be the case and IMO a lot to do with politics.

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@jetho1680ho1680 wrote:

OH was at the RSL club on Friday night, comes home and tells me they now have a couple of people roaming the club wearing Hi-Vis vests with "Covid Safety Officer" printed on them, checking that people are remaining seated unless you are going to the bar, cafe, restaurant, toilet etc, if you refuse or told more than once you are asked to leave the premises.

The touch screen gaming machines at the RSL are operating but the self serve photo machines at a BigW store have been shut down.

The reason, corona could be transferred to the touch screens.

The RSL must have installed Corona resistant screens on their gaming machines.

No wonder people are getting fed up and beginning to question what is being fed to them.

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It maybe neither here nor there, but the gaming industry like the mining industry possesses a fair bit of clout. Both have the power to influence politics and hurt a political career.

I haven't seen these new self-sanitising gaming machines but they must be pretty cool.   I remember years ago having a VHS recorder and it would clean its own heads. It was "the thing" back then"  . Anyway seriously, this is a prime example example of overkill or lack of uniformity. Heck, the hotels clubs and pubs are more unsanitary than a Big W self-serve photo machine. With the clubs etc., you have people going back and forth to the rest room, consuming alcohol and going back and forth to the ATM to feed in more dollars.

Very good point too, yes it's obvious many folks are getting fed up. Even some of the "I'll buy in to everything they tell me" crowd can only be spoon-fed for so long.

[davewil1964]

The stairs would be about 1.2 metres wide and people are walking up and down them, passing each other in opposite directions, but don't you dare have more than 2 people in a elevator, how ridiculous

But those on the stairs aren't staying in close proximity to anybody else. Those in the lift are.

[jetho1680]

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@davewil1964 wrote:

The stairs would be about 1.2 metres wide and people are walking up and down them, passing each other in opposite directions, but don't you dare have more than 2 people in a elevator, how ridiculous

But those on the stairs aren't staying in close proximity to anybody else. Those in the lift are.

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You cannot have a 1.5 metre distancing rule and expect that it can be maintained on a 1.2 metre wide staircase,

unless  1+1= 3

The same principal for a 1.5 metre elevator,  4 people puts them inside the 1.5 metres.

Go ahead, manipulated the numbers and find a different answer. 

Or give the numbers to the media or government, they are well practiced in number manipulation.

BTW, not staying in close proximity to anybody, as you say, provides no guarantee.

A confined and heavy traffic stairwell would be a greater risk than two people in the shopping center elevator.

If you or anyone believes your reasoning has any merit, test the theory with an infected person.