COVID Is A SCAM

[icyfroth]

Hundreds of demonstrators across Australia have broken social distancing rules to protest against vaccinations, 5G and the coronavirus pandemic.   

Protesters gathered at the Royal Botanic Gardens in Melbourne on Saturday and claimed the global COVID-19 health crisis was a 'scam'.

There are more than five-million cases of coronavirus cases across the globe and at least 350,000 people have died. Australia has recorded more than 7,000 infections and the death toll sits at 103 following the successful implementation of social distancing restrictions. 

Brazen demonstrators also carried signs declaring they were against vaccines and 5G technology.

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/coronavirus/covid-19-is-a-scam-no-mandatory-vaccines-and-5g-equals-co...

Lol @ the anti-virus shields on the horses

[countessalmirena]

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@jetho1680 wrote:

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@davewil1964 wrote:

The stairs would be about 1.2 metres wide and people are walking up and down them, passing each other in opposite directions, but don't you dare have more than 2 people in a elevator, how ridiculous

But those on the stairs aren't staying in close proximity to anybody else. Those in the lift are.

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You cannot have a 1.5 metre distancing rule and expect that it can be maintained on a 1.2 metre wide staircase,

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BTW, not staying in close proximity to anybody, as you say, provides no guarantee.

A confined and heavy traffic stairwell would be a greater risk than two people in the shopping center elevator.

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Hello, Jetho.

Limiting people in lifts is necessary; there are ongoing studies about how the risk of contagion is affected by being in confined spaces without ventilation, and how the length of time spent in such enforced close contact may increase the risk.

That isn't to say I don't take your point about stairwells into consideration. Heavy traffic on stairwells would be a risk as well; most of us in Victoria would (I think) be chary about traipsing down or up stairs in company. (With the stairwidth being less than 1.5 metres, you would think that people would not even try to pass each other.) More could be done if it appeared that there was heavy traffic. If you're in a work situation where there is such traffic, you should report it to H&S, perhaps suggesting that signs be placed to advise staggered use of the stairs, and no passing on the stairs.

There is less risk with passing someone on stairs, though, than there is in standing in a lift with people closer to one than 1.5 metres. Ventilation is emerging as a significant risk factor as well as every extra moment spent in contact with potentially infected people.

For my own safety, I would be taking every possible precaution to the point of being OCD about it. To rephrase... Coronavirus may kill or tire us, but names will never break me.

[not_for_sale2025]

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@*kazumi* wrote:

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@not_for_sale2025 wrote:

 I doubt there are more than a handful of experts in the country who could say with confidence what the good and bad foods truly are.

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It is really not that difficult;  anything processed has heaps of sugar (or substitute) and/or salt, and is not healthy for you.  Soft drinks are just empty calories, rot your teeth and put on weight.  It is also well known that too much red meat is not good for you.  It has been tested by giving thorough medical to groups of people and then feeding them"junk food" for few weeks and then giving another medical, and in many cases the change to worse was quite radical.  People eating high sugar diet also tend to over eat, because that sort of food does not satisfy their hunger.  

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How do you know, and according to who?

For example, eggs have been regarded as good, bad, healthy and dangerous over recent decades. Do you remember when we were told to discard the yolk and only eat the white LOL? A 2019 US study found that, "Adults who ate about 1½ eggs a day had a slightly higher risk of heart disease than those who ate no eggs. The study showed the more eggs, the greater the risk. The chances of dying early were also elevated". Yet another study reported, "The science is clear that up to 3 whole eggs per day are perfectly safe for healthy people. So which report do we believe and how do we define "healthy people"? Does anybody consider the credibility of the researchers or do we just believe what we want to believe?

In part my point is that a healthy lifestyle is not just about what we don't put in our mouths, but also what we do put in our mouths. The information available on healthy and unhealthy foods is conflicting and depends on whom is providing the advice. Even the Australian Heart Foundation has altered it's advice on certain foods over recent years. I recently read, "Studies show that the antioxidants in red wine and dark chocolate can be beneficial for your heart". So should we give up eggs and include red wine and dark chocolate in our diets? As consumers we need to be smart, and I am not convinced it is smart to avoid only what we think is bad for us. So when it comes to eggs, lets get cracking. 

[countessalmirena]

It comes down to the parameters, methodology, integrity and implicit assumptions of a study.

If you have a spare 20 minutes, you may want to watch this video which has Professor Roy Taylor (Professor of Medicine and Metabolism, Director of the Newcastle Magnetic Resonance Centre, Newcastle University) discussing nutritional management. It's specifically in relation to Type 2 diabetes (and preventing or reversing it), but also interesting in terms of nutrition more generally.

Re eggs - I agree. It cracks me up.    

[*kazumi*]

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@not_for_sale2025 wrote:

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How do you know, and according to who?

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According to scientific medical research.  What you are talking about are fads, which keep changing.  There are compounds in red wine and chocolate, which could be beneficial, so having 1/2 a glass of wine with their food and one square of chocolate after dinner, might get benefit from them.  But nobody will die if they do not drink wine or eat chocolate.  Eating too much red meat or too many eggs, or too much of anything is not likely to be good for you.  Of course, the sheep farmers and egg producers will tell you there is not such a thing as "too much".

But as I said, the basics are pretty clear; unprocessed, high in fiber, low in sugar and salt foods are better for you.  Eating junk food for even short time can significantly change your cholesterol and blood sugar levels in just few weeks, and vice versa.  Of course, it is complicated, some people can live on junk food and look healthier than others, but then again some seemingly healthy people have heart attacks in middle age. Everybody is different. 

[not_for_sale2025]

"Of course, it is complicated, some people can live on junk food and look healthier than others, but then again some seemingly healthy people have heart attacks in middle age".

Exactly, it is complicated, rather than "not that difficult".

BTW, I am not talking about fads. I hardly think the advice provided by the Australian Heart Foundation is based on fads. It is based on scientific medical research!

[domino-710]

Look at Pritikin - no matter what you do - the genes count.

Predisposition - can undo all you try to achieve.

[not_for_sale2025]

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@domino-710 wrote:

Look at Pritikin - no matter what you do - the genes count.

Predisposition - can undo all you try to achieve.

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So very true.

When I was very young I went on the Pritikin diet and the weight poured off me very quickly. The more I ate the more weight I lost. But after a while I started to experience dizzy spells and fell over a few times. I saw my GP who said my blood pressure had become so low he couldn't get a diastolic reading. I then gave up the diet.

I was quite affected when I learned he committed suicide because he had leukemia. Yet his autopsy showed "his arteries were like those of a child and his heart like that of a young man". His theories were probably correct, but as you say, the genes count too.

[4channel]

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@icyfroth wrote:

Hundreds of demonstrators across Australia have broken social distancing rules to protest against vaccinations, 5G and the coronavirus pandemic.   

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/coronavirus/covid-19-is-a-scam-no-mandatory-vaccines-and-5g-equals-co...

Lol @ the anti-virus shields on the horses

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I'm not saying that Vitamin C is the be all end all. But its merits are never going to be properly shown via main stream media. One reason is that any dollar spent in the wellness / natural health industry is going to be dollars that the pharmaceutical industry misses out on. Actually its 2 ways that it doesn't get the $$$s. One is when people go the natural health route instead of the pharmaceutical one,  big pharma misses out. Two is with those who achieve wellness by natural health means will be less likely to fall ill 

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The Daily Mail

Can VITAMIN C beat coronavirus? It boosts brains, combats sepsis and tackles colds… no wonder China’s doctors are racing to test its effects on deadly outbreak

By Victoria Lambert For The Daily Mail

Published: 09:03 AEST, 3 March 2020 | Updated: 12:11 AEST, 3 March 2020

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-8067189/Chinas-doctors-racing-Vitamin-C-beat-coronavirus....

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FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Orthomolecular Medicine News Service, Jan 26, 2020

Vitamin C Protects Against Coronavirus
by Andrew W. Saul, Editor

http://orthomolecular.org/resources/omns/v16n04.shtml

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I'm not saying that Vitamin C is the cure. But what we don't get to hear about is sometimes done for the benefit of others. And we know what the third rail of journalism is. Don't we? 

[domino-710]

I have never been on a diet.

I only eat when I'm hungry - usually twice a day.

I'm 5'10 - 58 kilos - still fit the earrings I wore in High School. lol

I have walked my way out of the only medical problem I have ever had.

No in ' between ' - little treats - only because I'm not hungry.

Listen to your body - it tells you what you need.

What's with all those packets of biscuits - cakes - etc - ?????

Give me a chicken wing - I'm happy.

[not_for_sale2025]

I'm quite the opposite. I've tried many, many approaches to exercise and dieting, Although my main focus is to try and remain healthy. I've spoken with lots of experts and have received some pretty wild advice. But the best advice I have ever received was from a fresh out of Uni GP. He said the trick is to put less in your mouth, and be guided by the Healthy Eating Pyramid. He added that the human body is a fascinating machine that is quite capable of dealing with the odd junk, so don't forget about happiness. Pretty good advice I reckon.