Chemtrails are real

Chemtrails 

Weather Engineering

GeoEngineering.............it's real....it's happening..........just look out your window..............open your eyes and look up.

 

 

Seriously, if you notice unusual 'cloud formations' or unexplained/unusual skies.............'chemtrail activity' in your area then this thread is here to report what you see, describe what unusual weather patterns you are experiencing...

Debate and discuss.

 

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P007: "Hhhhmmmn monman, thanks for the pics of the 'airborne plane wash' ! I am just taking your word for it that it is"

Don't take my word for it  P007, as a retired pilot/engineer ( RAF and civil) Do some of your own research  using credible sources,  because so far all you have done is reference a constant stream of nutters and nutter sites with large gobs of cut and paste. I have also observed that whilst keen to quote  others (nuts) you are not prepared to support your conspiracy theories with any form of personal technical/scientific expertise, to the point that you provide links to sites with photographs that are patently presented  incorrectly, or lack truthful (or any)  description.

The airborne plane wash was part of flight testing procedure to determine the effects of icing on  airframe and engines of the following aircraft.

Your last reference to weather modification sounds evil,  but is actually nothing other than cloud seeding, (not with evil chems) which the CSIRO have been studying for many years. 
You mention Japan and buying water from overseas (weird): "It was revealed that the Queensland government was in a bidding war with Ecuador over contracts to sell water to Japan. In order to win, the Bligh government spent millions on cloud seeding operations in order to increase supply to **bleep** levels in catchment areas"

This is getting nuttier P007. Japan's Water use is about 83.5 km3, or 20% of water availability in an average year. That equates to around 46,000 large supertankers a year (each carrying 320 million litres) or 126 tankers per day,  or with a 20% water top-up 25 per day.

Why do evil chem pilots fly in broad daylight? Why has no one noticed a few of the many hundreds/thousand large evil jets involved lurking on the ground or hiding in hangars?  Why do the Japanese want our water? It might contain evil chems sprayed from above in broad daylight (why do it  then?)   We could lend them our (your ) weather modifiers, or better still, ask HAARP to make it rain over Japan.

Still awaiting pictures of your daily over your head evil chem planes P007, why do they spray in broad daylight?, somone must notice!

nɥºɾ

 

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monnie: " Why has no one noticed a few of the many hundreds/thousand large evil jets involved lurking on the ground or hiding in hangars?"......

 

you purport that there are 'hundreds/thousand large evil jets' ....involved. I certainly haven't. I would not know how many aircraft are involved in this reported (many, many sources available  from the i/net-in fact there is a Treaty acknowledging this activity ) global aerial chemtrailing activity.

You incorrectly state that 'no-one' is noticing what is going on up in our skies, above our very heads.....well, more and more people are becoming aware and speaking out about it.

I have mentioned 'cloud seeding' and you are almost 'frothing at the mouth' on this little bit of fact being added to this discussion, like I was not aware of this activity nor what it is? Cloud Seeding occurs and it is important to acknowledge here in this thread because it is different to chemtrailing activity and often folk are led to believe or understand that chemtrailing IS cloud seeding. Each activity, from my understanding is different.

 

Where have I stated that evidence of and all ongoing chemtrailing activity in my area is only occuring during the day?

I have not.

We (four people) noticed a large transporter plane chemtrailing above our heads in broad daylight and filmed this event.

Why was it doing this? We/I don't know. Why in broad daylight? We/I don't know-we were gobsmacked too to be honest.

 

You keep using the word 'evil' when discussing chemtrailing activity and jets. Perhaps you actually do know more than you are letting on ....or is this your sanguine attempt at humour?!

I notice that you suggest we use HAARP to make it rain over Japan?! Sounds like a simple solution....!

I am not a scientist nor an aviator. I am simply a witness to activities that are NOT being acknowledged in the everyday mainstream news and in fact attempts are being made to erradicate any mention of chemtrailing from recognised i/net social sites e.g. Facebook as earlier posted, You Tube filming of individuals from all around the globe post their real time chemtrails above their heads, these videoes often only stay on the i/net for a while then *poof!* disappear.....or the message that appears on the black screen when one clicks on a link will say 'an error has occured'.......

I ask ....WHAT EXACTLY is being covered up? ....and why?

 

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http://mysteriousuniverse.org/2013/10/chemtrail-theorists-might-be-the-least-crazy-among-conspiracy-...

 

Chemtrail Theorists Might be the Least Crazy Among Conspiracy Circles

  • October 11, 2013
  • Lee Arnold 

    A recently published study claims the use of aluminum nanoparticles has the power to dampen the harmful environmental effects of mono-nitrogen oxides and carbon monoxide released by burnt liquid fuels. For conspiracy theorists, a study like this is just another contaminated drop of jet fuel sprayed onto an already controversial fire, and for the rest of us, it poses yet another potential health risk we could be exposed to by our governments.

    The study, currently under review for publication in the International Journal of Materials, Mechanics and Manufacturing, an Asia-centric academic journal, claims nanoparticles have the ability to change evaporation behaviors in liquid-fueled combustion engine emissions, like those that create the contrails left behind aircraft. Specifically, the researchers behind the study say the addition of aluminum nanoparticles reduces the amount of carbon monoxide and mono-nitrogen oxides in the emissions, essentially cleaning it up for safer dispersion in the environment.

    Adding chemicals and metals to the fuel systems of jets is already the basis of controversy and governmental dodginess due to chemtrail conspiracy theorists. Chemtrails, or contrails laced with chemical content, are believed to be a tool used for weather manipulation, or possibly national defense purposes.

    It’s easy to understand why the chemtrail theory has legions of supporters.

    The US used weather manipulation during the Vietnam War to extend the monsoon season.

    Numerous US Patents have been granted for devices designed to infuse chemicals into the contrails of..., and the practice of cloud seeding to alter weather conditions has been going on for decades. The US used cloud seeding to extend the monsoon season during its war with Vietnam from 1967 through 1971, when Operation Popeye, as it was called, was exposed in the media. The revelation led to several anti-environmental warfare resolutions to be passed by the US House and Senate between 1971 and 1975. Operation Popeye was halted after it became known to the public.

    An international treaty, the Environmental Modification Convention,  outlawing the use of weather manipulation for the purposes of warfare was ratified in 1978.

    Studies of weather manipulation methods have continued, as the lengthy history of patents indicate, steadily in the decades since. Now there is some hope the negative effects of global warming might be correctable through modern manipulation methods. There are also those who condemn the practice claiming the negative effects far outweigh the positive ones, and much more research is needed before any such actions are taken.

    When it comes to using aluminum nanoparticles to negate carbon monoxide and other damaging emissions from jets, there is concern over their effect on humans and the environment as a whole.

    Aluminum nanoparticles are already alleged to be included in the streaks of contrails that remain in the sky sometimes for hours after an aircraft has flown past. Last year, retired neurosurgeon Russell Blaylock claimed aluminum nanoparticles can cause brain damage, breathing difficulties and other illnesses. Blaylock is not one to shy away from controversial topics and going against the popular opinion in the medical community. For example, he is a vocal opponent of vaccinations, claiming they cause more harm than good, which is a topic that draws ire from both the medical community and the public.

    So what does this all mean?

    Well, that remains to be seen, but when one pieces the puzzle of information together, they do seem to create a snapshot of everything chemtrail theorists have been touting for years, and the minimal information contained in this article barely scratches the surface of the issue. For example, I’m not even going to mention HAARP, with the exception of this sentence saying I’m not even mentioning it. Now moving on…

    In some scientific circles, they have opted to refer to chemtrails as persistent contrails because they believe the issue is important, but tainted by the high-profile publicity created by chemtrail theorists. While they might call it a different name, the facts still remain the same. There is a concerted effort to master the manipulation of weather and using aircraft seems to be the preferred method for doing it.

    So when we notice trails of alleged crystallized condensation that hang in the air for oddly long periods of time, and sometimes in patterns that blanket the sky, concluding that it was distributed with purpose and possibly contains chemical additives isn’t that outlandish.

    The big question becomes, what is the purpose of the practice really?  With the US government, and others, denying outright the inclusion of chemical additives to the contrails, when there is a clear history both in practice and at the US Patent Office, one has no recourse but to continue monitoring it and asking questions.

    When Google Scholar searches for chemtrails return primarily research from international scientists, and research by private organizations, but noticeably not from US universities who rely in federal funding for most research projects, makes one wonder just what is being hidden from the public’s inquisitive eye. It’s hard to believe not one US university has proposed a study on chemtrails, and requested federal funding to pursue it scientifically, when the topic is so controversial and high-profile.

    When public health is potentially at stake, and the preservation of the environment is at question, a more open book policy in the US, and elsewhere, should be demanded. As it stands, that demand is coming almost exclusively from the so-called chemtrail conspiracy theorists.

    Isn’t it time the rest of us begin demanding clear, honest answers?

    TAGS: Atmospheric Geoengineering, Chemtrails, Conspiracy, Contrails, Operation Popeye

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.....these following 2 videos blatantly and clearly show chemtrailing from aircraft and fallout from a 'spraying', both vids taken in Ireland. First video show chemtrails being laid from a large aircraft in a 'grid' where one chemtrailed 'layer' has already been laid.....then this aircraft seems to be laying gridlines to form a 2nd layer above the first already laid layer.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGCdfUNLcVU .....7:36 mins long - I have asked monman to comment on this footage, he refuses.....so am assuming that this is real and he either does not want to acknowledge because this is just too confronting for a retired pilot to contemplate. My heart and compassion does honestly go out to monman. I nor others on here would blame individuals like monman for this sort of activity. There are good and bad. It is all about 'choice'.

I believe you are 'good' people monnie....but this footage is indicative of what is being reported and filmed globally. In Australia we are to look forward to more intense chemtrailing?....and heaven help us.....'fallout' stuff?! I hope not

 

again in Ireland.....this video shows 'fallout' from an early morning 'spraying' 

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pP_nUDMoAKE  ....3:11 mins long

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They are called "CONTRAILS".......sigh...........even children understand that!.....however, continue to be alarmed...

 

........giggle..........Woman LOL

 

 



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Paintsew.....,.Mm said it......you are referencing a constant stream of nutters and nutter websites.......doesn't support or prove your conspiracy theory....

 

How will you convince us?.......Woman Very Happy

 

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.....these following 2 videos blatantly and clearly show chemtrailing from aircraft and fallout from a 'spraying', both vids taken in Ireland. First video show chemtrails being laid from a large aircraft in a 'grid' where one chemtrailed 'layer' has already been laid.....then this aircraft seems to be laying gridlines to form a 2nd layer above the first already laid layer.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGCdfUNLcVU .....7:36 mins long - I have asked monman to comment on this footage, he refuses.....so am assuming that this is real and he either does not want to acknowledge because this is just too confronting for a retired pilot to contemplate. My heart and compassion does honestly go out to monman. I nor others on here would blame individuals like monman for this sort of activity. There are good and bad. It is all about 'choice'.

I believe you are 'good' people monnie....but this footage is indicative of what is being reported and filmed globally. In Australia we are to look forward to more intense chemtrailing?....and heaven help us.....'fallout' stuff?! I hope not

 

again in Ireland.....this video shows 'fallout' from an early morning 'spraying'

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pP_n

.....these following 2 videos blatantly and clearly show chemtrailing from aircraft and fallout from a 'spraying', both vids taken in Ireland. First video show chemtrails being laid from a large aircraft in a 'grid' where one chemtrailed 'layer' has already been laid.....then this aircraft seems to be laying gridlines to form a 2nd layer above the first already laid layer.

 

 

 

 

 

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Why do think these chemtrails are contrails here  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGCdfUNLcVU .....7:36 mins long....I mean why would jets make these 'grid-like' efforts above a town like Dublin? These are NOT evidence of contrails.

 

........do you have any comment/s to make other than to 'titter' or say *giggle* siggs?.........especially in regards to the 'fallout'

 

from a chemtrail 'spraying' here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pP_nUDMoAKE  ....3:11 mins long

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ref siggs "...How will you convince us?.......:womanvery-happy:"

 

 

 

......I am not 'about' trying to convince anyone siggs....I wish to draw attention to chemtrailing activity ....... as many are not AWARE.

 

 

The evidence is convincing though isn't it?

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Confronting........not at all. I see a planes contrails.

 

What you call fall out, could be the spray from a garden hose......Woman Very Happy

 

 

 



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You tube clips as your reference..............hilarious!

 

I think everyone is still waiting for your evidence..............Woman Very HappyWoman Very Happy



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