Children and COVID19

[*kazumi*]

At first we were told “kids do not get it”, then we were told kids are carriers = keep them away from grandparents, then came kids can go to school.   OK kids can get it, but it is not serious,   only very few die!!!  But some can get something looking like Kawasaki disease; it’s nasty but rare.

I would expect that scientists would be clambering to work out WHY are kids different to adults?  My idea would be that it has something to do with the childhood vaccinations they were given, because that is the only difference between kids an adults, and of course older person is, less likely there would be any effect of vaccine left. 

[imastawka]

I don't know about other schools, but my grandson is doing (high) school on-line at home.

My daughter had to drop in something to the office the other day, and the kids that were at school - all 7 of them - were all distanced in the one room, and doing the same work on-line that grandson was doing at home, on their computers.

No teachers were present.  Only the Principal and office staff there, and doing the rounds to make sure the kids were doing ok.

So, doesn't look like any teachers are at risk there.

[*kazumi*]

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@not_for_sale2025 wrote:

There are lots of developmental differences between kids and adults. It is still a mystery why the Spanish Flu mainly killed younger healthy adults. It is still early days with Covid 19 and we do't know all of the reasons why it affects people differently or what it is capable of over time.

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The Spanish flu killed many healthy younger people including children because about 40 year before that outbreak there was another outbreak of much milder, but related flu.  People alive then got some immunity, which protected them during 1918 -20. 

Children, especially under 5, are usually more likely to get sick and die because their immune system is not totally developed. 

True, we know nothing about C19, and the emergence of Kawasaki like symptom  in kids is very worrying, rare as it is in this moment. 

[rogespeed]

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@not_for_sale2025 wrote:

There are lots of developmental differences between kids and adults. It is still a mystery why the Spanish Flu mainly killed younger healthy adults. It is still early days with Covid 19 and we do't know all of the reasons why it affects people differently or what it is capable of over time.

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Some start with careful observations 

[rogespeed]

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@davidc4430 wrote:

children are the area i am most sceptical about re the information we are being handed.

ok, there are no significant outbreaks or deaths amongst children.

but that doesnt mean one child cant be a carrier and giving the virus to say 5 other kids at school who then go home and give it to family members.

it has worked in the govt favor as keeping schools open allowed a conveinient day care option for kids of all the people who are still working.

but treating teachers as sudo child care workers at a time when adults are very open to getting the virus is just not on in my book.

its just pure luck in my view there have been no outbreaks in the school sector amongst teachers.

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Same with pigs , pigs catch covid easy and who is testing the pig farm workers ? 

[davewil1964]

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@davidc4430 wrote:

children are the area i am most sceptical about re the information we are being handed.

ok, there are no significant outbreaks or deaths amongst children.

but that doesnt mean one child cant be a carrier and giving the virus to say 5 other kids at school who then go home and give it to family members.

it has worked in the govt favor as keeping schools open allowed a conveinient day care option for kids of all the people who are still working.

but treating teachers as sudo child care workers at a time when adults are very open to getting the virus is just not on in my book.

its just pure luck in my view there have been no outbreaks in the school sector amongst teachers.

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According to a Channel 9 news report, there are no known cases of COVID-19 being transmitted from a child to an adult.

[not_for_sale2025]

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@rogespeed wrote:

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@not_for_sale2025 wrote:

There are lots of developmental differences between kids and adults. It is still a mystery why the Spanish Flu mainly killed younger healthy adults. It is still early days with Covid 19 and we do't know all of the reasons why it affects people differently or what it is capable of over time.

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Some start with careful observations 

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Of course it starts with careful observation. But at the start the two most powerful people on the planet were saying the observations were fake news, a hoax, hysteria, it started in China, no it started in the US. Now look at the situation. How can the people of the world place their faith in "careful observations" while those two are in power?

[11dustyattic]

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@davewil1964 wrote:

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@davidc4430 wrote:

children are the area i am most sceptical about re the information we are being handed.

ok, there are no significant outbreaks or deaths amongst children.

but that doesnt mean one child cant be a carrier and giving the virus to say 5 other kids at school who then go home and give it to family members.

it has worked in the govt favor as keeping schools open allowed a conveinient day care option for kids of all the people who are still working.

but treating teachers as sudo child care workers at a time when adults are very open to getting the virus is just not on in my book.

its just pure luck in my view there have been no outbreaks in the school sector amongst teachers.

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According to a Channel 9 news report, there are no known cases of COVID-19 being transmitted from a child to an adult.

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I wonder how would they know? They wouldn't be testing children. Aren't they only testing people who display symptoms?

I don't trust their statistics. Statistics are most often subjective, many factors affect those stats

[davewil1964]

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@11dustyattic wrote:

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@davewil1964 wrote:

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@davidc4430 wrote:

children are the area i am most sceptical about re the information we are being handed.

ok, there are no significant outbreaks or deaths amongst children.

but that doesnt mean one child cant be a carrier and giving the virus to say 5 other kids at school who then go home and give it to family members.

it has worked in the govt favor as keeping schools open allowed a conveinient day care option for kids of all the people who are still working.

but treating teachers as sudo child care workers at a time when adults are very open to getting the virus is just not on in my book.

its just pure luck in my view there have been no outbreaks in the school sector amongst teachers.

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According to a Channel 9 news report, there are no known cases of COVID-19 being transmitted from a child to an adult.

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I wonder how would they know? They wouldn't be testing children. Aren't they only testing people who display symptoms?

I don't trust their statistics. Statistics are most often subjective, many factors affect those stats

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I imagine that they test people who've come into contact with victims. Which would include children. Who would be positive but not contagious, or negative and not contagious. Or even that they tested a random sample of children, and those that tested positive hadn't infected anybody they had come into contact with.

I'm not a virologist, so I don't know the methodology used, but I doubt such a statement would not be backed up by some sort of verifiable evidence

[lyhargr_0]

www.abc.net.au/news/2020-05-03/coronavirus-victorian-government-to-shut-down-school/12209794

Safe places to send ya kids   .......... NOT

[cezm]

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@imastawka wrote:

I don't know about other schools, but my grandson is doing (high) school on-line at home.

My daughter had to drop in something to the office the other day, and the kids that were at school - all 7 of them - were all distanced in the one room, and doing the same work on-line that grandson was doing at home, on their computers.

No teachers were present.  Only the Principal and office staff there, and doing the rounds to make sure the kids were doing ok.

So, doesn't look like any teachers are at risk there.

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A niece and nephew of mine are still attending school. As your daughter noted, there are few children, they are all being socially distanced and doing the same work as the other students. There is no face-to-face teaching, just supervision.

Any teachers on site are communicating with (all) children via audio/video

Any staff that felt they were in a high risk category have been able to work from home