Compulsory military service Whaddya reckon?

[nero_bolt]

She is an A grade bucket mouth and  nutter BUT does this idea of hers hold merit

Is it a  good idea or not

Me i like the idea

Lots of benefits would come from it and it would help a lot of unemployed youth get some experience, some training and even some pride in themselves

[cherry*135]

Is this the song that never ends?

[the_great_she_elephant]

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@am*3 wrote:

Is this the song that never ends?

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Sorry Am. I'll be a good little elephant now and sit on my hands.

[ca04]

you should come out of the bushes into the daylight a bit more often lurker. The ADF provides for professionals , after basic training , to engage in their profession and 2 years would install a lot of good habits and a bit of self esteem.

[fourandsixpants]

nope, but there is an 'n' in strange LOL

[cherry*135]

Spoiler

paints - what do you think about compulsory military service, or have you already posted you view?

[lurker172602]

Oh, I get out in the daylight a lot. Don't you worry about me 🙂

[icyfroth]

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@nero_wulf wrote:

She is an A grade bucket mouth and  nutter BUT does this idea of hers hold merit

Is it a  good idea or not

Me i like the idea

Lots of benefits would come from it and it would help a lot of unemployed youth get some experience, some training and even some pride in themselves

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I think it's a good idea except it should be for 24 months

[cherry*135]

Good idea for who? Politicians?

Not a good idea for:

The Armed Service - who would need more staff to supervise the youth forced into CMT. This costs big $$.

The unemployed youth - who have no desire to join the Armed Forces even for 6 mths. If they have little or no school qualifications what is the Armed Forces going to do with them for 24 months? They wouldn't qualify for most trades, if they applied for entry into Regular Service... no Cert 1's in the Armed Forces to send them on.

The enlisted staff in the Armed Forces - who didn't join the Army, Navy or Airforce to 'babysit' groups of youth who don't want to be there.

Anyway, it is like the Burqa ban, not likely to happen so no need to get hot under the collar about it. A passing flight of fancy for Jacqui Lambie.

I wrote a Letter to the Editor on this topic in the late 1970's when I was in the Armed Forces (NZ). It was published. I still have it somewhere.

[icyfroth]

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@am*3 wrote:

Good idea for who? Politicians?

Not a good idea for:

The Armed Service - who would need more staff to supervise the youth forced into CMT. This costs big $$.

The unemployed youth - who have no desire to join the Armed Forces even for 6 mths.

Hence "compulsory"

If they have little or no school qualifications what is the Armed Forces going to do with them for 24 months?

They wouldn't qualify for most trades, if they applied for entry into Regular Service... no Cert 1's in the Armed Forces to send them on.

Train them to physiclal fitness. Teach them survival skills. Teach them a trade. Not every walk of life needs elaborate school qualifiations. Teach them how to achieve goals, learn respect for authority and self-esteem.

The enlisted staff in the Armed Forces - who didn't join the Army, Navy or Airforce to 'babysit' groups of youth who don't want to be there.

They don't babysit them, they train them - see my above comment. Make responsible human beings out of them (in an ideal world.)

Anyway, it is like the Burqa ban, not likely to happen so no need to get hot under the collar about it. A passing flight of fancy for Jacqui Lambie.

I wrote a Letter to the Editor on this topic in the late 1970's when I was in the Armed Forces (NZ). It was published. I still have it somewhere.

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What made you join the defence force in NZ?

[cherry*135]

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@icyfroth wrote:

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@am*3 wrote:

Good idea for who? Politicians?

Not a good idea for:

The Armed Service - who would need more staff to supervise the youth forced into CMT. This costs big $$.

The unemployed youth - who have no desire to join the Armed Forces even for 6 mths.

Hence "compulsory"

You can't force people to go into the Armed Forces, even for a limited amount of time. If it was a do-able proposition it would have been in place for the last 30 years.

If they have little or no school qualifications what is the Armed Forces going to do with them for 24 months?

They wouldn't qualify for most trades, if they applied for entry into Regular Service... no Cert 1's in the Armed Forces to send them on.

Train them to physiclal fitness. Teach them survival skills. Teach them a trade. Not every walk of life needs elaborate school qualifiations. Teach them how to achieve goals, learn respect for authority and self-esteem.

You can't teach a person a trade who may not have the aptitude or the right attitude even. A person needs school qualifications to join the Regular Armed Forces.

Goals, respect... that is a load of hooey.. what line of work is the Defence Force ? Social services?

The enlisted staff in the Armed Forces - who didn't join the Army, Navy or Airforce to 'babysit' groups of youth who don't want to be there.

They don't babysit them, they train them - see my above comment. Make responsible human beings out of them (in an ideal world.)

 Who trains them? The majority of Regular Servicemen have specific jobs to attend.. they don't train each other, let alone have loads of unemployed youth to train?

What do they train them as ? Foot soldiers?  The nature of the Armed Forces means a lot of the jobs do not translate into civilian jobs.

Training takes a lot of time and money.The Armed Forces aren't TAFE's.  Why should the train people who aren't even going to be in service?. Train a regular soldiers and they may spend  20+ years in the Armed Forces.

Forced enrolment means they don't want to be there, let alone be forced to learn something someone else has chosen for them. 

There are 257 000 unemployed youth in Australia..

• The ADF workforce comprised 83,681 permanent and reserved members (2012)
  
  Do the math
  

Anyway, it is like the Burqa ban, not likely to happen so no need to get hot under the collar about it. A passing flight of fancy for Jacqui Lambie.

I wrote a Letter to the Editor on this topic in the late 1970's when I was in the Armed Forces (NZ). It was published. I still have it somewhere.

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What made you join the defence force in NZ? I don't see why that is relevant.

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