Convicted criminals working in call centre for $25 a week

[ufo_investigations]

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/convicted-criminals-are-paid-to-call-schools-and-hospitals...

I don't agree with this at all.

[i-need-a-martini]

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@ufo_investigations wrote:

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Convicted criminals are there to receive punishment not to be skilled.

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So instead of providing them with new skills that could alter their lives, we should allow them continue on the road that landed them in gaol in the first place?

So after we let them out in 12months, 5 years or 15 years we give them a pat on the bottom and simply say "Stay outta trouble ya hear??"

Yeah that will work...not.

[boris1gary]

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@i-need-a-martini wrote:

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@boris1gary wrote:

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@i-need-a-martini wrote:

I don't have a problem with this.

The calls are monitored and they are not talking to children or private households.

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I have a problem with  - companies collecting and selling data, prisoners being paid $25 a week when someone out of work could be doing the job for award wages, i am sure there is work for prisoners that is being done by volunteers if they need skills. 

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The only jobs a call centre person would be taking is a job away from someone in India or Bangladesh.

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I don't think so

[polksaladallie]

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@ufo_investigations wrote:

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Convicted criminals are there to receive punishment not to be skilled.

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No, they are not.  They are in prison AS punishment, not to RECEIVE punishment.

[ufo_investigations]

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@polksaladallie wrote:

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@ufo_investigations wrote:

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Convicted criminals are there to receive punishment not to be skilled.

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No, they are not.  They are in prison AS punishment, not to RECEIVE punishment.

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If you make it like a holiday resort it will be no deterrance and lead to more deliquency.

[polksaladallie]

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@ufo_investigations wrote:

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@polksaladallie wrote:

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@ufo_investigations wrote:

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Convicted criminals are there to receive punishment not to be skilled.

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No, they are not.  They are in prison AS punishment, not to RECEIVE punishment.

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If you make it like a holiday resort it will be no deterrance and lead to more deliquency.

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I agree to a degree.  Prison is not much of a deterrent to some, but surely the aim is rehabilitation, although I think we fail miserably in that regard.

[windrake]

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@i-need-a-martini wrote:

Personally I believe there are some great programs implemented into our prison systems that are really well thought out.

Particularly in juvenile detention - if you live around Lidcombe in NSW you can get served coffee by young girls in detention who are learning some basic skills in waitressing, food service or barista skills. The girls have a salon in the facility where they can do a hairdressing apprenticeship. And a vets where the girls are being trained as animal nurses.

These girls will come out with something they would never have gotten in real life - skills to get a job and an appreciation of work and pride in achievement.

The more skills and inmate can learn the better the chances they can turn their lives around and put a life of crime behind them.

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Well put Martini, I feel if all prisoners were given the opportunity to upskill rather than break rocks in a chain gang they will be better equipped after release & they will eventually be released.

Unless you are a serial killer or worse everybody should get a chane to atone.

[azureline**]

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@polksaladallie wrote:

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@ufo_investigations wrote:

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@polksaladallie wrote:

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@ufo_investigations wrote:

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Convicted criminals are there to receive punishment not to be skilled.

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No, they are not.  They are in prison AS punishment, not to RECEIVE punishment.

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If you make it like a holiday resort it will be no deterrance and lead to more deliquency.

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I agree to a degree.  Prison is not much of a deterrent to some, but surely the aim is rehabilitation, although I think we fail miserably in that regard.

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Totally agree, the prison term is their punishment, the removal of their freedom.

The reason we don't have much success in that regard is the attitude that they deserve whatever happens to them in prison...............we need to provide some chance of a normal life afterwards or they go back to the crime they were sent there for, in the first place.

[i-need-a-martini]

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@ufo_investigations wrote:

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If you make it like a holiday resort it will be no deterrance and lead to more deliquency.

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And what comparison can be made to a holiday resort?

[azureline**]

I can't, I have never been in one. I suppose tv shows don't really count?