As it's more than 100 days now, it has been suggested that a new thread was needed. The current govt has been breaking promises and telling lies at a rate so fast it's hard to keep up.
This below is worrying, "independent" pffft, as if your own doctor is somehow what? biased, it's ridiculous. So far there is talk of only including people under a certain age 30-35, for now. Remember that if your injured in a car, injured at work or get ill, you too might need to go on the DSP. They have done a similar think in the UK with devastating consequences.
and this is the 2nd time recently where the Govt has referred to work as welfare???? So when you go to work tomorrow (or tuesday), just remember that's welfare.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-04-20/disability-pensioners-may-be-reassessed-kevin-andrews/5400598
Independent doctors could be called in to reassess disability pensioners, Federal Government says
The Federal Government is considering using independent doctors to examine disability pensioners and assess whether they should continue to receive payments.
Currently family doctors provide reports supporting claims for the Disability Support Pension (DSP).
But Social Services Minister Kevin Andrews is considering a measure that would see independent doctors reassess eligibility.
"We are concerned that where people can work, the best form of welfare is work," Mr Andrews said at a press conference.
The Commission of Audit pantomime and the Coalition's big lie
The Commission of Audit report was just a pantomime to help Hockey to sell his fictitious "debt crisis" line. Managing editor David Donovan explains why the Coalition are desperate to continue selling this lie.
THE COMMISSION OF AUDIT report has just been released and the Budget is just days away from being delivered.
Before discussing these important matters, however, it is important to set to scene. How a nation that is AAA credit-rated and has one of the lowest levels of public debt in the Western world could be widely seen (in this country, not overseas) to be in the grip of a potentially calamitous "budget crisis". Indeed, a debt crisis so urgent that the Federal Government has suggested it has no choice but to remove much of the social safety net, sack thousands of public sector workers and sell off swathes of government assets.
Well, it all comes down to the selling off a big lie – the very successful selling, in this case – that the Coalition has been doing to the Australian public ever since the previous Government saved the country from the Global Financial Crisis through the use of a modest fiscal stimulus in a quite masterful piece of Keynesian economics. So masterful, in fact, the then Treasurer Wayne Swan was awarded the title of world's best Finance Minister in 2011 and Australia went from having the 9th best economy in the world to 2007 to having the best in 2013.
I was aware of the lie for a long time, but its ruthless effectiveness was brought home to me in the months leading up to the 2013 Federal election. It was at that moment that I knew for sure that Labor would lose that election.
I was at a party just after Rudd had been returned and Labor were enjoying a brief resurgence in the polls — they were, in fact, back in front. But I knew they'd lose anyway when I asked someone – a personal trainer running his own small business – who he was going to vote for.
He said the Coalition — because the country "needed to sort out all this debt".
I tried to explain to him that Australia had very low debt in world terms after the GFC, but he looked askance at me and said he had a mortgage so he knew how important it was to manage debt.
The Coalition's big lie - that Australia's is in a serious debt crisis - is obviously false. (Table via austrade.gov.au)
I told him the level of Australia's debt was like a $50,000 mortgage on a $300,000 house, but he wasn't interested.
The message of debt – and the subsidiary image of Labor's "reckless spending" – had been so imprinted in this otherwise very reasonable voter's mind, as it had on the Australian population who get their little bits of "news" from commercial radio or TV, that Labor didn't have a hope.
The fearful mind of the electorate – most working hard to pay off massive mortgages or hefty credit card debt – was easy to convince about the bogey-man of public debt.
When you are telling stories about bogey-men to impressionable minds, it is irrelevant whether the bogey-man is real or not — all that is required is that it produces the desired emotional response, as it is that response that is imprinted long-term in receptive minds. Thus, the Coalition had absolutely no reservations about pulling out the bogey man of debt — as they don't about debt's bogey-colleagues of asylum seekers, Islam, dole-bludgers, government waste, lefties, socialists, Communists, greenies, bikies, or whoever may seem like a threat in the minds of ordinary Australians.
"And you would know as well as anyone else that that claim is a big fat lie. The aged pension is not an ever increasing burdon that we can't afford."
"And you would know as well as anyone else that that claim is a big fat lie" What claim would that be FN?
"The aged pension is not an ever increasing burdon that we can't afford." What economic nonsense.
"Like many other advanced nations, Australia is facing a demographic tsunami that threatens to cripple government finances. The large-scale retirement of the baby boomer generation means that the ratio of working-age Australians supporting dependents (mostly the aged) will shrink over coming decades, slashing the tax base at the same time as age-related outlays expand'
"According to the Grattan Institute, without corrective action, the federal budget deficit could hit $60 billion per year by 2023, or up to 4% of GDP, due mostly to rising health and welfare costs. Grattan also argues that the only part of the tax and welfare system that is not well targeted is that for old people "
The following ABS graph indicates the nonsense of the statement : "The aged pension is not an ever increasing burdon that we can't afford."
I repeat:
"Faced with an ageing population, the Government says the only way we can fund our retirement is to work longer."
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monman12, repeat, repeat, repeat - that won't make it true. Something else our pm has said, must be true then 
“The climate change argument is absolute bleep, however the politics are tough for us because 80 per cent of people believe climate change is a real and present danger.” February 2nd, 2010
This extract is from an interview he gave in 2009.
@monman12 wrote:"And you would know as well as anyone else that that claim is a big fat lie. The aged pension is not an ever increasing burdon that we can't afford."
"And you would know as well as anyone else that that claim is a big fat lie" What claim would that be FN?
"The aged pension is not an ever increasing burdon that we can't afford." What economic nonsense.
"Like many other advanced nations, Australia is facing a demographic tsunami that threatens to cripple government finances. The large-scale retirement of the baby boomer generation means that the ratio of working-age Australians supporting dependents (mostly the aged) will shrink over coming decades, slashing the tax base at the same time as age-related outlays expand'
"According to the Grattan Institute, without corrective action, the federal budget deficit could hit $60 billion per year by 2023, or up to 4% of GDP, due mostly to rising health and welfare costs. Grattan also argues that the only part of the tax and welfare system that is not well targeted is that for old people "
The following ABS graph indicates the nonsense of the statement : "The aged pension is not an ever increasing burdon that we can't afford."
I repeat:
"Faced with an ageing population, the Government says the only way we can fund our retirement is to work longer."
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faced with an ageing population the government says the only way we can fund out retirement is to work longer....what a pile of rubbish
http://theaimn.com/2014/04/14/the-superannuation-saga/
The Superannuation saga…..
@monman12 wrote:"Interesting" B1G but I think Abbott's grasp of climatology/science would be only slightly better than SRBA's, but the comment apropos climate, because of the many variables was, and still is, scientifically valid.
No IA comments available?
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Faced with an ageing population, the Government says the only way we can fund our retirement is to work longer.
ps: it's comforting to know that some are so willing to believe everything and anything this government says. I really hope you enjoy working until your 70 ( 65 will probably be the age people will be able to access their super). Sadly for those in heavy industry they won't get long to enjoy their retirement, but so what - who cares - the government says they have to and thats that.
