Diary of our stinking Govt.

As it's more than 100 days now, it has been suggested that a new thread was needed.  The current govt has been breaking promises and telling lies at a rate so fast it's hard to keep up.Woman Happy

 

This below is worrying, "independent" pffft, as if your own doctor is somehow what? biased, it's ridiculous. So far there is talk of only including people under a certain age 30-35, for now. Remember that if your injured in a car, injured at work or get ill, you too might need to go on the DSP. They have done a similar think in the UK with devastating consequences.

 

and this is the 2nd time recently where the Govt has referred to work as welfare???? So when you go to work tomorrow (or tuesday), just remember that's welfare.

 

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-04-20/disability-pensioners-may-be-reassessed-kevin-andrews/5400598

 

Independent doctors could be called in to reassess disability pensioners, Federal Government says

 

The Federal Government is considering using independent doctors to examine disability pensioners and assess whether they should continue to receive payments.

 

Currently family doctors provide reports supporting claims for the Disability Support Pension (DSP).

But Social Services Minister Kevin Andrews is considering a measure that would see independent doctors reassess eligibility.

 

"We are concerned that where people can work, the best form of welfare is work," Mr Andrews said at a press conference.

 

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Joeโ€™s fair go and his new class war

 

In a speech last night, Joe Hockey said unpopular Budget is fair and that everyone who opposes it is engaging in class war.Bob Ellis comments.

 

IMAGINE, IF YOU WILL, a 27-year-old woman in a country town who loses her job as a waitress on a Friday and finds she is pregnant the following Monday.

 

Under Joe Hockeyโ€™s new rules, she will get no money for six months, and must fend for herself until the baby is born and, after it is born, will get no Paid Parental Leave either, because she has no job.

 

What is happening to her is "fair" Joe Hockey says and complaining about her is

"... the class war rhetoric of the 1970s."

Some of us would think it was unfair โ€” and if thereโ€™s a class war on, heโ€™s declared it.

 

Joe would argue that the woman can, in her ninth month, move to another town and work for the dole, away from her family and their support system, and give birth in the workplace, but some of us would find this unfair also.

 

Joe would argue this is an โ€˜isolated caseโ€™, probably no more than twenty women will be in this position in the next two years โ€” but the trouble is, 10 million women will have heard of it and will vote his Government out because of it.

 

This inability to join the dots characterises Joe.

 

He may be the most incompetent politician in our history. He is certainly the most incompetent Treasurer.

 

He imagines $7 is no great sacrifice to an old woman in a nursing home with a chronically treatable condition who must go to the doctor twice a week, spending $20 on two visits and four bus fares. He imagines she too is an isolated case and 10 million women will not hear of her.

 

But of course they will. And they will not find her treatment by him "fair".

 

The Budget is now a quicksand sucking to their doom every rural MP in the nation. Manufacturing jobs are vanishing apace and Joe wonโ€™t subsidise them and the women fired from them wonโ€™t get PPL โ€” not a cent of it.

 

Joe is proud of this.

 

Women once โ€˜entitledโ€™ to have a subsidised baby wonโ€™t, if they lose their job, and are not yet 30, get any pregnancy money at all. And if their husband has lost his job too, at the Holden factory Joe invited to go away, for instance, or the fruit-canning factory that last year moved offshore, well, they now have the โ€˜age of opportunityโ€™ to look forward to, and a mortgage to pay with relativesโ€™ money till they have to sell up and start to sleep in a car outside a gambling casino, hoping to beg enough to bet inside on their โ€˜age of opportunityโ€™, roulette.

 

Joe thinks his Budget has not been sold well. Heโ€™s right about that.

 

No-one in the nation cares about the surplus anymore โ€“ apart from maybe thirty economists โ€“ and everyone is scared **bleep**less of losing their job and not getting another, ever, because the oldies are now working until theyโ€™re seventy. And those that have a job are worried about those that havenโ€™t. Everyone has an unemployed relative, or a disabled one. And Joe didnโ€™t realise they would care.

 

It is hard not to think him actually crazy. Heโ€™s certainly fanatical.

 

Is there some lesson from his Maronite upbringing that emphasised self-help and God not answering the prayers of the lazy?

 

 

Does he imagine the millions his wife brings home can remain a secret? Has he joined the dots? I donโ€™t think he has.

 

Itโ€™s unlikely Palmer will even talk to them unless Joe is removed. Itโ€™s unlikely, after what theyโ€™d said about him, theyโ€™ll get anything through except the ending of the carbon tax, which worsens the bottom line.

 

Itโ€™s probable Joe has done for them. And he still thinks he can turn opinion round. Win back the 1.5 million votes theyโ€™ve lost in eight months.

 

Heโ€™s actually as crazy as that.

 

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http://www.independentaustralia.net/politics/politics-display/joes-fair-go-and-his-new-class-war,656...

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@am*3 wrote:

boris - I see one of the areas the Govt is going to 'target' unemployed youthin is the Shoalhaven.

 

Good luck trying to find 40 jobs a month to apply for there! There wouldn't be that many job vacancies (for unskilled/semi skilled workers) in Wgong, I wouldn't think, and that is a city of near 300 000 people. Not a regional/rural area like the Shoalhaven.

 

Currently I think the dole receipients have to phone businesses and ask if there are any job vacancies. We used to get quite a few calls like that where I worked.


There isn't that many jobs to apply for and with the recent job losses in the mines and more to come in other associated industries it's a complete farce....sad that some are stupid (or selfish) enough to believe the dribble coming from the LNP, what's next...workhouses? 

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The budget is a FAIL - cuts spending, no increase in revenue( taxes). Also it is not a 'fair' budget.

 

10 year projections will only work out if Australia doesn't have a recession in the next 10 years, making it 33 years since the last one. (a record achieved by no other country apart from post-war Japan).

 

 

 

 

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I disagree with that monman because this current govt. have not reigned in their own spending in any way. 

 

the ALP were in govt at a time when the world was going through a financial crisis, they stimulated our economy, & we got through it OK.  the housing market did not collapse here as it did in other countries, Our bank accounts were guarranted to be safe. they were extenuating circumstances for any govt that was in power at that time and most govts in the western world were in deficit.

 

We all know that we are reaching the time when the largest group of Australians, the baby boomers, are retiring & If our current tax/welfare ratio stragey is unsustainable  why didn't they just raise GST to 121/2% instead of taking money from those who can least afford it??. the pensioners, young unemployed, disabled, sick etc.

 

I suspect that they will raise the GST as well anyway, but will make it a state govt responsibility, so in the end, they will be double dipping

 

I'm not an economist, so i don't kniw why we pay higher interest, though it's not 50% more than others,

 

all I know is that we're selling off our valuable commodities for a mere pittance, so something is really wrong

 

 

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Joe Hockey -

 

โ€œIn other words the average working Australian, be they a cleaner, a plumber or a teacher, is working over one month full-time each year just to pay for the welfare of another Australian. Is this fair?โ€™โ€™

 

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/policy/joe-hockey-goes-into-bat-for-fair-budget/sto...

 

He should not be talking like that. 

 

The function of taxation is to raise revenue from the private sector to finance government spending. This enables the government to meet its set objectives. The revenue raised is redistributed to support people with low incomes, who are are retired, have disabilties and/or are sick, are unemployed of families with children.

 

In addidtion taxes are used to provide merit and social goods e.g. provision of public education, subsidised health care and national defence, to give subsidies to filmmaking, R& D etc. 

 

The main criteria for evaluating a tax system are equity, efficiency and simplicity.

 

Equity considers whether the tax is considered to be fair. Horizontal equity is an equal tax burden for taxpayers earning the same income. Vertical equity refers to higher tax burdens applying to taxpayers on higher incomes than those on lower incomes. Vertical equity is based on the principle that people with greater ability to pay taxes should pay higher taxes.

 

 

If a taxpayer has no children at school, never needs any hospital services, should we be calculating that they are working xx amount of hours each year, just  to pay for another Australian to spend a day in school, or have an operation in a public hospital? NO.

 

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From the same link above

 

 โ€œNo longer will the brickie, the painter and the chef be subsidising the degrees of the dentist, the doctor or the lawyer to the extent that they currently are.โ€™โ€™

 

It is just plain stupid for anyone to say that.

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From the same link above

 

 โ€œNo longer will the brickie, the painter and the chef be subsidising the degrees of the dentist, the doctor or the lawyer to the extent that they currently are.โ€™โ€™

 

It is just plain stupid for anyone to say that.


stupid, ignorant and very liberal like. so we aren't going to need dentists, doctors or lawyers services, suppose we won't be needing engineers or scientists either in the new Australia where everything and everyone is for sale.

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I disagree with that monman because this current govt. have not reigned in their own spending in any way. 

 

the ALP were in govt at a time when the world was going through a financial crisis, they stimulated our economy, & we got through it OK.  the housing market did not collapse here as it did in other countries, Our bank accounts were guarranted to be safe. they were extenuating circumstances for any govt that was in power at that time and most govts in the western world were in deficit.

 

We all know that we are reaching the time when the largest group of Australians, the baby boomers, are retiring & If our current tax/welfare ratio stragey is unsustainable  why didn't they just raise GST to 121/2% instead of taking money from those who can least afford it??. the pensioners, young unemployed, disabled, sick etc.

 

I suspect that they will raise the GST as well anyway, but will make it a state govt responsibility, so in the end, they will be double dipping

 

I'm not an economist, so i don't kniw why we pay higher interest, though it's not 50% more than others,

 

all I know is that we're selling off our valuable commodities for a mere pittance, so something is really wrong

 

 


Debra, what's really wrong is the conservatives are attempting to change our society, where everything and everyone is up for sale. Have a read of the links, I have also included a link to the Australian Institutes reply to the farcical commission of audit it also gives an honest account of australias economy. Woman Happy some would like us to think that a nations economy is the same a household budget but more and more Australians are realising that is complete and utter rubbish, although some are still pushing the line.

 

http://www.tai.org.au/content/auditing-auditors-peoples-commission-audit

 

http://www.independentaustralia.net/politics/politics-display/budget-2014-why-politics-and-media-clo...

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some would like us to think that a nations economy is the same a household budget but more and more Australians are realising that is complete and utter rubbish, although some are still pushing the line.

 

Yes, they do. I don't get why they would even try to do that.

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Thanks Boris, I agree that they're trying to change our society. I cringed when I saw TA on tonight's news praising big business running schools in the US

Thanks for the links
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