Diary of our stinking Govt.

[boris1gary]

As it's more than 100 days now, it has been suggested that a new thread was needed.  The current govt has been breaking promises and telling lies at a rate so fast it's hard to keep up.

This below is worrying, "independent" pffft, as if your own doctor is somehow what? biased, it's ridiculous. So far there is talk of only including people under a certain age 30-35, for now. Remember that if your injured in a car, injured at work or get ill, you too might need to go on the DSP. They have done a similar think in the UK with devastating consequences.

and this is the 2nd time recently where the Govt has referred to work as welfare???? So when you go to work tomorrow (or tuesday), just remember that's welfare.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-04-20/disability-pensioners-may-be-reassessed-kevin-andrews/5400598

Independent doctors could be called in to reassess disability pensioners, Federal Government says

The Federal Government is considering using independent doctors to examine disability pensioners and assess whether they should continue to receive payments.

Currently family doctors provide reports supporting claims for the Disability Support Pension (DSP).

But Social Services Minister Kevin Andrews is considering a measure that would see independent doctors reassess eligibility.

"We are concerned that where people can work, the best form of welfare is work," Mr Andrews said at a press conference.

[bella_again]

This may help Karli

http://studyassist.gov.au/sites/studyassist/news/pages/changes-to-hecs-help-discounts-and-voluntary-...

[karliandjacko]

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@am*3 wrote:

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@karliandjacko wrote:

Are students whose families can afford to pay up front (those who don't needs HELP) still offered a 50% discount on their uni fees?

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It was about 10 or 20% about 7 years ago. I think it might be gone altogher now, or if it is still enforce it is so small not very attractive option.

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That's good. It was between 40 and 50% years ago. I'm guessing that depended in the individual uni.

[cherry*135]

karlia - it would be the Govt that sets the discount I think.

[karliandjacko]

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@bella_again wrote:

This may help Karli

http://studyassist.gov.au/sites/studyassist/news/pages/changes-to-hecs-help-discounts-and-voluntary-...

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Thanks Bella.  It was years ago that I was astounded at the discounts offered to those who could afford to pay up front, not recent. I was curious about whether that little rort had been closed or reduced, which it appears to have been.

On another note.  Another Lib bites the dust at ICAC.  Might have something to do with the hysterical rant about Hawke and Keating.

[boris1gary]

nothing has gone through yet, so there is still hope.

Favourite headline today, keep it up Bill.

Bill Shorten says Tony Abbott 'unfit to govern' after entitlements leaks

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/bill-shorten-says-tony-abbott-unfit-to-govern-...

[fourandsixpants]

Tony Abbott to keep secular workers out of school chaplaincy program

The Abbott government is pushing ahead with a religious-only school chaplaincy scheme following a cabinet debate over whether secular welfare workers should be included in the program.

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/tony-abbott-to-keep-secular-workers-out-of-sch...

....can't see where the fairness in dictating this is.....?

[boris1gary]

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@paintsew007 wrote:

Tony Abbott to keep secular workers out of school chaplaincy program

The Abbott government is pushing ahead with a religious-only school chaplaincy scheme following a cabinet debate over whether secular welfare workers should be included in the program.

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/tony-abbott-to-keep-secular-workers-out-of-sch...

....can't see where the fairness in dictating this is.....?

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just shows their contempt for anything they can't control, buy or destroy (yet).

Labor school education spokeswoman Kate Ellis said: "It is an unjustifiable disgrace that hundreds of schools will lose valued, hardworking and qualified counsellors as a result of the Abbott government's ideology being rammed down the throat of school students across Australia.

"Determining who is best placed to support the needs of local students should be left to principals and school communities – not to Christopher Pyne and George Brandis."

Australian Education Union president Angelo Gavrielatos said the school chaplaincy scheme would "undermine the secular traditions of public education". The $224 million funding over four years should be spent on more urgent needs, such as support for children with disabilities, he said. 

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/tony-abbott-to-keep-secular-workers-out-of-sch...

[boris1gary]

[fourandsixpants]

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@paintsew007 wrote:

Tony Abbott to keep secular workers out of school chaplaincy program

The Abbott government is pushing ahead with a religious-only school chaplaincy scheme following a cabinet debate over whether secular welfare workers should be included in the program.

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/tony-abbott-to-keep-secular-workers-out-of-sch...

....can't see where the fairness in dictating this is.....?

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boris responded: just shows their contempt for anything they can't control, buy or destroy (yet).

Labor school education spokeswoman Kate Ellis said: "It is an unjustifiable disgrace that hundreds of schools will lose valued, hardworking and qualified counsellors as a result of the Abbott government's ideology being rammed down the throat of school students across Australia.

"Determining who is best placed to support the needs of local students should be left to principals and school communities – not to Christopher Pyne and George Brandis."

Australian Education Union president Angelo Gavrielatos said the school chaplaincy scheme would "undermine the secular traditions of public education". The $224 million funding over four years should be spent on more urgent needs, such as support for children with disabilities, he said. 

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/tony-abbott-to-keep-secular-workers-out-of-sch...

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After all my personal experiences with the clergy......abuse issues to myself and to close family members and also to friends.....I am not happy that $224 million is going to these people who will have access to Australia's children.

So the Churches and our govt think that by holding a Commission into Abuse is like going to Confession then?....that the slate is wiped clean and they can just start all over again?

Sorry to absolutely no-one. Full stop.

[fourandsixpants]

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@paintsew007 wrote:

Tony Abbott to keep secular workers out of school chaplaincy program

The Abbott government is pushing ahead with a religious-only school chaplaincy scheme following a cabinet debate over whether secular welfare workers should be included in the program.

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/tony-abbott-to-keep-secular-workers-out-of-sch...

....can't see where the fairness in dictating this is.....?

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boris responded: just shows their contempt for anything they can't control, buy or destroy (yet).

Labor school education spokeswoman Kate Ellis said: "It is an unjustifiable disgrace that hundreds of schools will lose valued, hardworking and qualified counsellors as a result of the Abbott government's ideology being rammed down the throat of school students across Australia.

"Determining who is best placed to support the needs of local students should be left to principals and school communities – not to Christopher Pyne and George Brandis."

Australian Education Union president Angelo Gavrielatos said the school chaplaincy scheme would "undermine the secular traditions of public education". The $224 million funding over four years should be spent on more urgent needs, such as support for children with disabilities, he said. 

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/tony-abbott-to-keep-secular-workers-out-of-sch...

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After all my personal experiences with the clergy......abuse issues to myself and to close family members and also to friends.....I am not happy that $224 million is going to these people who will have access to Australia's children.

So the Churches and our govt think that by holding a Commission into Abuse is like going to Confession then?....that the slate is wiped clean and they can just start all over again?

Sorry to absolutely no-one. Full stop.

[bella_again]

In Vic most are now trained in mental health as a minimum don't know about anywhere else.  However having said that everyone recognises spirituality is a part of our lives in one form or another.  We can say religion has no place in schools and if that is what we want fine but then also remove eastern religion and other religions influences that are currently taught in school  curriculum.  

I don't agree with pushing out secular (I hate that word) trained counsellor's or psychs, its about money really, lets face it. But lets not totally wipe out the benefit of supporting families and children spiritually as well.  Even counsellors and psychs recognise in our training the importance of spirituality.  I wouldn't want to minimise that.

But have to agree its a bad policy.