on 20-04-2014 10:21 PM
As it's more than 100 days now, it has been suggested that a new thread was needed. The current govt has been breaking promises and telling lies at a rate so fast it's hard to keep up.
This below is worrying, "independent" pffft, as if your own doctor is somehow what? biased, it's ridiculous. So far there is talk of only including people under a certain age 30-35, for now. Remember that if your injured in a car, injured at work or get ill, you too might need to go on the DSP. They have done a similar think in the UK with devastating consequences.
and this is the 2nd time recently where the Govt has referred to work as welfare???? So when you go to work tomorrow (or tuesday), just remember that's welfare.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-04-20/disability-pensioners-may-be-reassessed-kevin-andrews/5400598
Independent doctors could be called in to reassess disability pensioners, Federal Government says
The Federal Government is considering using independent doctors to examine disability pensioners and assess whether they should continue to receive payments.
Currently family doctors provide reports supporting claims for the Disability Support Pension (DSP).
But Social Services Minister Kevin Andrews is considering a measure that would see independent doctors reassess eligibility.
"We are concerned that where people can work, the best form of welfare is work," Mr Andrews said at a press conference.
on 30-07-2015 08:46 AM
@debra9275 wrote:
he's a character
floating around somewhere is a petition calling on her to resign with almost 70,000 signatures
This journalist (who I have a lot of time for) says that a resignation is likely. Will be interesting to see what happens.
http://mpegmedia.abc.net.au/rn/podcast/2015/07/bst_20150730_0755.mp3
30-07-2015 09:32 AM - edited 30-07-2015 09:32 AM
polks ABC have also posted an interview she did this morning with Alan Jones, I don't know how to post it, but here is some of what she said
Embattled Speaker Bronwyn Bishop says she is sorry for letting down the Australian people over her travel expense claims, but she will not stand down as Speaker.
on 30-07-2015 09:37 AM
on 30-07-2015 09:43 AM
@monman12 wrote:
"Sold her soul" is indeed a cliche, but where Wilke was concerned, sadly a fact., as was Gillard's deal with the devil-Greens
Poor Me is actually not a "cheap insult" but a cheap fact. I wonder if people like Merkle, Thatcher, Clinton (H), Bhutto (B) bemoaned what the "boys" said or called them?
You're wrong. Gillard did not sell her soul where Wilkie or anyone else was concerned.
You're more wrong about the Poor Me insult you keep insist on using instead of bringing yourself to use her name. If there was any truth to the matter you would be able to provide examples of Gillard crying poor me. She never did once cry poor me. Not even in her famous misogyny speech did she utter the words poor me or anything that resembled poor me. And you've never once been able to provide any examples.
Provide some proof or settle back in your little misogynist paradise and pretend.
on 30-07-2015 09:45 AM
@monman12 wrote:"hope you went and checked your portfolio
especially if you hadn't noticed a "crisis"
sorry if you only found out about it here'
I am not really tempted to rely on definitive information herein, and am still awaiting external information apropos the alluded to "crisis",
Anyway the XAO appears to have missed ALL the crisis:
sooo funny and soooooo predictable.
Pulls out a graph every single time he's challenged :D:D:D:D:D:D
on 30-07-2015 04:32 PM - last edited on 31-07-2015 03:46 AM by mc_remington
@gleee58 wrote:
@monman12 wrote:
"hope you went and checked your portfolio
especially if you hadn't noticed a "crisis"
sorry if you only found out about it here'
I am not really tempted to rely on definitive information herein, and am still awaiting external information apropos the alluded to "crisis",
Anyway the XAO appears to have missed ALL the crisis:
sooo funny and soooooo predictable.
Pulls out a graph every single time he's challenged :D:D:D:D:D:D
It's a monman thing
on 30-07-2015 07:24 PM
"Pulls out a graph every single time he's challenged." Challenged ???, not within my lexicon.
"You're more wrong about the Poor Me insult you keep insist on using instead of bringing yourself to use her name.
Really, like this?: ""Sold her soul" is indeed a cliche, but where Wilke was concerned, sadly a fact., as was Gillard's deal with the devil-Greens.
"You're wrong. Gillard did not sell her soul where Wilkie or anyone else was concerned."
Wrong, Gillard (Poor Me) sold most of her soul to the Greens with her famous carbon tax reversal, and the remainder to placate Clubs Australia when she reneged on her written agreement with Wilke apropos poker machines.
"If there was any truth to the matter you would be able to provide examples of Gillard crying poor me. She never did once cry poor me."
Oh dear, the term Poor Me is a title, not a quotation.
"And you've never once been able to provide any examples."
I will chuckle at that, because the "misogyny speech" epitomised the oft used gender card as shown by its resonance with females, and loss of support from males.
As for Poor Me, she and her duo circus act with Rudd are gone. Does Women for Gillard still exist?, are there any echoes of woe is me, misogyny or sexism cries emanating from Canberra? How is Emily's List. managing?. Perhaps poor us would have been more applicable back then!
Germaine Greer,
"It’s hard not to see Gillard’s defeat as symptomatic of the predicament of female politicians across the globe. Germaine Greer, the veteran Australian feminist, says that, after all these years, women still “don’t get politics” because it’s a boys’ club with rules written by men for men."
I voted for her, I made a mistake, as she proved to be less than leadership material even allowing for the fact that a bunch of men controlled her destiny.
Gender card ? never.
on 30-07-2015 08:36 PM
Well for all the hotch potch of texts in your argument you have failed to provide a single instance of a poor me attitude.
The misogyny speech was not a poor me excercise by any definition. Emily's List is not a poor me list.
Women for Gillard was not a poor me anything.
I don't believe for one minute that you voted for Gillard. You can't even bring yourself to use her proper name.
All you have are chuckles that you use as a way of putting other people down for your own amusement. Nice.
on 30-07-2015 09:19 PM
"I don't believe for one minute that you voted for Gillard."
I am thus lying, here?, Why would I need to so do?
Thus endeth any normal debate. Chuckle.
"You can't even bring yourself to use her proper name."
"her" ???? Et tu G58.
PS
I even voted for Rudd, chuckle.
on 30-07-2015 09:40 PM - last edited on 31-07-2015 03:49 AM by mc_remington
@monman12 wrote:
"I don't believe for one minute that you voted for Gillard."
I am thus lying, here?, Why would I need to so do?
Thus endeth any normal debate. Chuckle.
"You can't even bring yourself to use her proper name."
"her" ???? Et tu G58.
PS
I even voted for Rudd, chuckle.
What? you missed the name Gillard in the previous sentence?