Diary of our stinking Govt.

As it's more than 100 days now, it has been suggested that a new thread was needed.  The current govt has been breaking promises and telling lies at a rate so fast it's hard to keep up.Woman Happy

 

This below is worrying, "independent" pffft, as if your own doctor is somehow what? biased, it's ridiculous. So far there is talk of only including people under a certain age 30-35, for now. Remember that if your injured in a car, injured at work or get ill, you too might need to go on the DSP. They have done a similar think in the UK with devastating consequences.

 

and this is the 2nd time recently where the Govt has referred to work as welfare???? So when you go to work tomorrow (or tuesday), just remember that's welfare.

 

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-04-20/disability-pensioners-may-be-reassessed-kevin-andrews/5400598

 

Independent doctors could be called in to reassess disability pensioners, Federal Government says

 

The Federal Government is considering using independent doctors to examine disability pensioners and assess whether they should continue to receive payments.

 

Currently family doctors provide reports supporting claims for the Disability Support Pension (DSP).

But Social Services Minister Kevin Andrews is considering a measure that would see independent doctors reassess eligibility.

 

"We are concerned that where people can work, the best form of welfare is work," Mr Andrews said at a press conference.

 

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they're also suggesting a Royal Commission into it. I hope that happens one day  Smiley Happy

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Amnesty Int.are pushing their own agenda.Like looking after the persecuted and giving them a voice.Again,shame on those left wingers and their altruism.The world would be a better place if we were all selfish.There are more important things to concern ourselves with,like beefing up our personal wealth and destroying the planet in the process
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Australia guilty of 143 human rights violations, says UN Body

 

The United Nations Human Rights Committee has found Australia to be in breach of its obligations under international law, committing 143 human rights violations by indefinitely detaining 46 refugees for four years, on the basis of ASIO's ‘adverse security assessments’.

 

"The Committee's decision has confirmed what we have known all along, that the indefinite detention of refugees in Australia is not only inhumane, but highly illegal," said Graeme McGregor, Amnesty International Australia's Spokesperson."

 

Oh gosh, I just noticed the date of all the above22 August 2013,

 

"shame on those left wingers "

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https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2015/10/australia-damning-evidence-of-officials-involvement-i...

 

this one is a current report dated  28 October 2015, and covers paying people smugglers

 

May 2015 incident

Since this incident was first reported in the media, Australian government officials have repeatedly denied paying people-smugglers and have claimed the border patrols were responding to a boat in distress at sea.

However, the crew members of the boat – interviewed by Amnesty International in Indonesia in August where they are currently in police custody – as well as the passengers, whom Amnesty International also interviewed, all say the boat was not in trouble and that they never made a distress call.

 

The July incident

By hook or by crook documents another case of possible payment by Australian officials to a boat crew to smuggle people to Indonesia in July 2015. This case, unlike the May 2015 incident, has not received widespread media coverage. In this case Australian officials again appear to have directed the crew of a boat to take people to Rote Island in Indonesia. Passengers who were on the boat told Amnesty International that they were intercepted by the Australian Navy and Border Force on 25 July, and then put onto a new boat on 1 August. By this time the boat crew had two new bags that the passengers had not seen before. When the passengers became suspicious and threatened to open the bags the Australians repeatedly told them not to.

These incidents took place in the context of Australia’s Operation Sovereign Borders (OSB), a military-led border control operation launched in 2013 to stop anyone – including refugees and people seeking asylum – from reaching Australia irregularly by boat.

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while you are here, wouldn't it be a better idea to research over the past 100 years to find out if a sitting MP has ever signed up for the washington speech club??

 

http://www.news.com.au/finance/work/tony-abbott-lands-new-job-joins-international-speaking-circuit/s...

 

LESS than two months removed from the country’s top job, Tony Abbott is starting a new career. It’s expected to pay handsomely. 

 

( that makes it sound like he hasn't got a job)

 

Mr Abbott is taking a well-trodden path to life after politics, following in the footsteps of former Australian prime minister John Howard, former French president Nicolas Sarkozy and former US president George W Bush.

All three are part of the Washington Speakers Bureau (WSB), a job that could pay as much as $300,000 per appearance.

 

 

According to the WSB website, Mr Howard received a minimum of $40,000 per speech.

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Invading countries is lucrative eh?
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“All of the available evidence points to Australian officials having committed a transnational crime by, in effect, directing a people-smuggling operation, paying a boat crew and then instructing them on exactly what to do and where to land in Indonesia. People-smuggling is a crime usually associated with private individuals, not governments – but here we have strong evidence that Australian officials are not just involved, but directing operations.

 

A yummy C&P but more waffle than anything,   interesting  that the ALP's  past money connection is not mentioned !

 

Cash payments have been made to members of Indonesian people-smuggling rings by Australian intelligence officials for at least the past four years - including under the former Labor government, Fairfax Media has learnt.

 

Fairfax Media has been told that the practice of intelligence agency officials paying members of people-smuggling networks including boat owners and crews goes back to about 2010 under the then Rudd government.

 

"Australian officials having committed a transnational crime by, in effect......."    in effect" ?

 

I would hazard a guess that AI, and others,  have not bothered to read Section 73.3A of the Commonwealth Criminal Code which makes it an offence to provide material support or resources which aid a person to engage in the crime of people smuggling.

 

Further "73.3A offence requires that the payment "aids" the offence of people smuggling, which means organising or facilitating the unauthorised entry of people into a country

Use a little thought (not C&P one) and wonder if openly returning boat people  from a country whence they set sail would contravene Section 73.3A

 

I repeat YET AGAIN "they both do it."

 

If it stops the boat people arriving/drowning, it is money well spent, by both sides.

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Cash payments have been made to members of Indonesian people-smuggling rings by Australian intelligence officials for at least the past four years - including under the former Labor government, Fairfax Media has learnt.

 

Fairfax Media has been told that the practice of intelligence agency officials paying members of people-smuggling networks including boat owners and crews goes back to about 2010 under the then Rudd government.

 

ah but you only selected a couple of sentences from the article - AGAIN

 

the following sentence is:

 

Multiple sources have said that such payments have been part of successive governments' tactics, though not always as part of boat turnbacks, which were not used by the previous government.

 

which sounds like they may have paid people smugglers not to launch boats

 

 

 

 

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or they may have paid for information which is the most likely scenario

 

they did not pay people smugglers to transport people

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"while you are here, wouldn't it be a better idea to research over the past 100 years to find out if a sitting MP has ever signed up for the washington speech club??"          What a strange question.

 

I guess Google is still averse to research as there does not appear to be a:  "washington speech club". However there is a : Washington Speakers Bureau ! but that has only been around for 36 years!

 

It would appear that Abbott has signed up but  actually is not speeching or even  (speaking) yet for filthy lucre.  But I am amazed that you still  follow his  life so closely  (habit?) .  Can you wait until  he eventually quits and talks?, will you be devastated?

 

SMH

Mr Abbott's decision to join the speakers circuit could be a sign he may quit Parliament

 

SBS

Former prime minister Tony Abbott has registered with the Washington Speakers Bureau.


Back to the silly "legal" question,  and my still unanswered question:

 

 "So, is it appropriate (is it even against the law?) for a currently serving government member  to go about taking money in exchange for his public speaking engagements?"

 

Google is working and  Codes of Conduct would be a good place to start!   However I am interested in the details  involved apropos the "currently serving government member"  (a "he" I gather?)  and the actual monies involved.  

Not the charity lecture event in London recently, really?  Do tell, ALL.

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