on 20-04-2014 10:21 PM
As it's more than 100 days now, it has been suggested that a new thread was needed. The current govt has been breaking promises and telling lies at a rate so fast it's hard to keep up.
This below is worrying, "independent" pffft, as if your own doctor is somehow what? biased, it's ridiculous. So far there is talk of only including people under a certain age 30-35, for now. Remember that if your injured in a car, injured at work or get ill, you too might need to go on the DSP. They have done a similar think in the UK with devastating consequences.
and this is the 2nd time recently where the Govt has referred to work as welfare???? So when you go to work tomorrow (or tuesday), just remember that's welfare.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-04-20/disability-pensioners-may-be-reassessed-kevin-andrews/5400598
Independent doctors could be called in to reassess disability pensioners, Federal Government says
The Federal Government is considering using independent doctors to examine disability pensioners and assess whether they should continue to receive payments.
Currently family doctors provide reports supporting claims for the Disability Support Pension (DSP).
But Social Services Minister Kevin Andrews is considering a measure that would see independent doctors reassess eligibility.
"We are concerned that where people can work, the best form of welfare is work," Mr Andrews said at a press conference.
on 08-11-2015 02:55 PM
Welfare payments must be overhauled in any reform of the nation’s tax system, according to a senior federal government adviser who warns that flaws are being entrenched in a system that costs $150 billion a year.
As Malcolm Turnbull considers expanding the GST, the head of the government’s welfare review is pressing for a radical overhaul to simplify and tighten the delivery of unemployment benefits, the Disability Support Pension and family payments to boost Australians’ incentives to get jobs.
The warning, from former Mission Australia chief Patrick McClure, will widen the debate over tax reform as the Prime Minister prepares the ground for sweeping change, despite grave concerns among Coalition MPs about the political danger of a 15 per cent consumption tax.
At least one third of the revenue boost will have to be paid as compensation to meet Mr Turnbull’s pledge of “no disadvantage” to the vulnerable, triggering $9bn in extra payments every year in some scenarios.
Mr McClure told The Weekend Australian that welfare changes would have to go hand in hand with any tax reform in order to fix old rules that fail to do enough to encourage social security recipients into work.
“If they are going to embark on tax reform it’s also very important for them to look at reform of the social security system,” Mr McClure said. “That means looking at a simpler system and also ensuring that it pays to get into work.”
Scott Morrison has made job creation a key principle in his approach to the GST debate, arguing for greater rewards for those who move from welfare to work. Experts believe the Treasurer’s goal will require stricter rules on welfare payments to encourage recipients to move into the workforce, as well as income tax cuts so that workers keep more of their salaries.
Mr McClure is calling for greater investment in training and employment services to move people off a lifetime of welfare, as well as a simpler payment to all people of working age.
“We also have to start looking at the Disability Support Pension and the working age pension,” he said. “We’ve got to create the incentives for people to get into the workforce.”
The commonwealth will spend $154bn on social security and welfare this year, about 35 per cent of all expenses. This will rise to $187bn, or 37 per cent of expenses, by 2019.
Liberal MPs fear that a tax-reform compensation package will add to those expenses without producing a reform dividend unless the system is shaken up.
Millions of Australians could be out of pocket from a rise in the GST from 10 to 15 per cent unless the government offers to increase transfer payments as well as cut income taxes to compensate for the bigger household costs.
The group includes 2.4 million people on the Age Pension, about 820,000 on the Disability Support Pension, more than 660,000 on unemployment benefits and 220,000 on carer payments.
and National Employment Services Association chief Sally Sinclair — warned in a report issued in February that the payments system had become “incoherent” and needed to be streamlined with a focus on work.
With the Disability Support Pension, for example, many recipients suffer from extreme depression or anxiety and can receive permanent income support. Yet mental health experts believe that engaging in work or training can help their recovery, which means employment incentives could get people back to work.
Reforms in New Zealand have shown that spending on training can curb the mammoth “lifetime cost” of the welfare bill over decades.
Mr McClure told The Weekend Australian that welfare reform and an investment in services could help meet the government’s goal of producing a fairer system with tax reform.
“We are an aspirational people,” he said. “It is far better for people to be in training or a job rather than be on welfare for a lifetime, unless they are unable to through age, disability or caring responsibilities.”
The Weekend Australian has been told the government is still considering whether to proceed with substantial welfare reform, but that this depends in part on the threshold question of whether to lift the GST.
Social Services Minister Christian Porter has warned that the current welfare system is “excruciatingly complicated”, with 20 different categories of payments and 55 different subcategories of payments. That complexity raises doubts about whether the existing system could be used effectively to reimburse vulnerable households for a higher GST.
“The system is overwhelmingly complicated and, of course, part of a reform agenda has to be in terms of simplifying those 55 different sub-payments and the 20 payment category types,” Mr Porter said this week.
The parliamentary secretary for social services, Alan Tudge, also said the system had to ensure that recipients had the incentives to “take work where it is available” while also helping to create job opportunities.
“That is the overall objective of what we are trying to do, while of course having a very strong safety net still in place for those who are most vulnerable in our society,” Mr Tudge said. “For those who, through no fault of their own, have an incapacity to be able to look after themselves — and that is the reason why we have this social security safety net, to assist those people. But for others that have the capacity to work, then we should be encouraging them to do so.
on 08-11-2015 02:57 PM
that must be it- paywalled to me also Bella, but I can read it once, so have copied it for you
it is a bit of long read though
08-11-2015 03:39 PM - edited 08-11-2015 03:41 PM
Millions of people out of pocket (with a GST hike) means less disposable income,means less goods and services purchased,means less jobs created.
Reform welfare so people will get jobs.No.The problem is there aren't enough jobs,and all your FTA's and TPP's aren't going to make up the shortfall.Someone should inform these privileged morons in Canberra that this isn't the 60's. You want something approaching full employment? Move to China because we'll never see it here again.
on 08-11-2015 05:30 PM
Thank you Debra 🙂 🙂 yes the job creation is an issue. One of my DD IQ 42 has been doing Tafe, they are telling her she will have a job in a few years time. Reality check no one will employ people with multiple disabilities in the severe to moderate range (not round here anyway), they lie to these kids so they can get their funding. It annoys me no end and the parents are left to pick up the pieces.
But yeah I don't get why a million people are happy with Turnbull when in reality the policies have not change one bit.
on 09-11-2015 08:59 AM
@bella_again wrote:Thank you Debra 🙂 🙂 yes the job creation is an issue. One of my DD IQ 42 has been doing Tafe, they are telling her she will have a job in a few years time. Reality check no one will employ people with multiple disabilities in the severe to moderate range (not round here anyway), they lie to these kids so they can get their funding. It annoys me no end and the parents are left to pick up the pieces.
But yeah I don't get why a million people are happy with Turnbull when in reality the policies have not change one bit.
Yes we all wonder that? it was a concerted hate campaign from day one with Abbott and it's still going.
09-11-2015 09:13 AM - edited 09-11-2015 09:14 AM
I think the majority of people are so relieved to get rid of abbott that they'd be happy with anyone else Bella
it's the policies that really ned to be looked at though
on 09-11-2015 09:19 AM
on 09-11-2015 11:49 PM
on 11-11-2015 09:13 AM
The trade union royal commission has apologised to Bill Shorten's lawyers for not returning their phone calls before a raft of documents were released late last Friday night that concerned, in part, the federal Opposition Leader's time as leader of the Australian Workers Union.
And the commission's solicitor assisting, James Beaton, has insisted that the timing of the document release - after newspaper deadlines and evening radio and TV bulletins - was in no way designed to avoid media scrutiny.
on 11-11-2015 09:16 AM
US corporations avoid an estimated $2 billion tax every year in Australia: report