Diary of our stinking Govt.

As it's more than 100 days now, it has been suggested that a new thread was needed.  The current govt has been breaking promises and telling lies at a rate so fast it's hard to keep up.Woman Happy

 

This below is worrying, "independent" pffft, as if your own doctor is somehow what? biased, it's ridiculous. So far there is talk of only including people under a certain age 30-35, for now. Remember that if your injured in a car, injured at work or get ill, you too might need to go on the DSP. They have done a similar think in the UK with devastating consequences.

 

and this is the 2nd time recently where the Govt has referred to work as welfare???? So when you go to work tomorrow (or tuesday), just remember that's welfare.

 

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-04-20/disability-pensioners-may-be-reassessed-kevin-andrews/5400598

 

Independent doctors could be called in to reassess disability pensioners, Federal Government says

 

The Federal Government is considering using independent doctors to examine disability pensioners and assess whether they should continue to receive payments.

 

Currently family doctors provide reports supporting claims for the Disability Support Pension (DSP).

But Social Services Minister Kevin Andrews is considering a measure that would see independent doctors reassess eligibility.

 

"We are concerned that where people can work, the best form of welfare is work," Mr Andrews said at a press conference.

 

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Welfare payments must be ยญoverhauled in any reform of the nationโ€™s tax system, according to a senior federal government ยญadviser who warns that flaws are being entrenched in a system that costs $150 billion a year.

 

As Malcolm Turnbull considers expanding the GST, the head of the governmentโ€™s welfare review is pressing for a radical overhaul to simplify and tighten the delivery of unemployment benefits, the Disability Support Pension and family payments to boost Australiansโ€™ incentives to get jobs.

The warning, from former Mission Australia chief Patrick McClure, will widen the debate over tax reform as the Prime Minister prepares the ground for sweeping change, despite grave concerns among Coalition MPs about the political danger of a 15 per cent consumption tax.

At least one third of the revenue boost will have to be paid as compensation to meet Mr Turnbullโ€™s pledge of โ€œno disadvantageโ€ to the vulnerable, triggering $9bn in extra payments every year in some scenarios.

Mr McClure told The Weekend Australian that welfare changes would have to go hand in hand with any tax reform in order to fix old rules that fail to do enough to encourage social security recipients into work.

โ€œIf they are going to embark on tax reform itโ€™s also very important for them to look at reform of the social security system,โ€ Mr McClure said. โ€œThat means looking at a simpler system and also ensuring that it pays to get into work.โ€

Scott Morrison has made job creation a key principle in his ยญapproach to the GST debate, ยญarguing for greater rewards for those who move from welfare to work. Experts believe the Treasurerโ€™s goal will require stricter rules on welfare payments to ยญencourage recipients to move into the workforce, as well as income tax cuts so that workers keep more of their salaries.

Mr McClure is calling for greater investment in training and employment services to move people off a lifetime of welfare, as well as a simpler payment to all people of working age.

โ€œWe also have to start looking at the Disability Support Pension and the working age pension,โ€ he said. โ€œWeโ€™ve got to create the ยญincentives for people to get into the workforce.โ€

The commonwealth will spend $154bn on social security and welfare this year, about 35 per cent of all expenses. This will rise to $187bn, or 37 per cent of expenses, by 2019.

Liberal MPs fear that a taxยญ-reform compensation package will add to those expenses without producing a reform dividend ยญunless the system is shaken up.

Millions of Australians could be out of pocket from a rise in the GST from 10 to 15 per cent unless the government offers to increase transfer payments as well as cut income taxes to compensate for the bigger household costs.

The group includes 2.4 million people on the Age Pension, about 820,000 on the Disability Support Pension, more than 660,000 on unemployment ยญbenefits and 220,000 on carer payments.

and National Employment Services Association chief Sally Sinclair โ€” warned in a report issued in February that the payments system had become โ€œincoherentโ€ and needed to be streamlined with a focus on work.

With the Disability Support Pension, for example, many ยญrecipients suffer from extreme depression or anxiety and can ยญreceive permanent income ยญsupport. Yet mental health ยญexperts believe that engaging in work or training can help their recovery, which means employment incentives could get people back to work.

Reforms in New Zealand have shown that spending on training can curb the mammoth โ€œlifetime costโ€ of the welfare bill over decades.

Mr McClure told The Weekend Australian that welfare ยญreform and an investment in ยญservices could help meet the ยญgovernmentโ€™s goal of producing a fairer system with tax reform.

โ€œWe are an aspirational ยญpeople,โ€ he said. โ€œIt is far better for people to be in training or a job rather than be on welfare for a lifetime, unless they are unable to through age, disability or caring responsibilities.โ€

The Weekend Australian has been told the government is still considering whether to proceed with substantial welfare reform, but that this depends in part on the threshold question of whether to lift the GST.

Social Services Minister Christian Porter has warned that the current welfare system is โ€œexcruciatingly complicatedโ€, with 20 different categories of payments and 55 different subcategories of payments. That complexity raises doubts about whether the existing system could be used effectively to reimburse vulnerable households for a higher GST.

โ€œThe system is overwhelmingly complicated and, of course, part of a reform agenda has to be in terms of simplifying those 55 different sub-payments and the 20 payment category types,โ€ Mr Porter said this week.

The parliamentary secretary for social services, Alan Tudge, also said the system had to ยญensure that recipients had the ยญincentives to โ€œtake work where it is availableโ€ while also helping to create job opportunities.

โ€œThat is the overall objective of what we are trying to do, while of course having a very strong safety net still in place for those who are most vulnerable in our society,โ€ Mr Tudge said. โ€œFor those who, through no fault of their own, have an incapacity to be able to look after themselves โ€” and that is the reason why we have this social security safety net, to assist those people. But for others that have the capacity to work, then we should be encouraging them to do so.

 

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/tax-reform-must-link-to-welfare/story-fn59niix-1227...

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that must be it- paywalled to me also Bella, but I can read it once, so have copied it for you

 

it is a bit of long read though

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Millions of people out of pocket (with a GST hike) means less disposable income,means less goods and services purchased,means less jobs created.
Reform welfare so people will get jobs.No.The problem is there aren't enough jobs,and all your FTA's and TPP's aren't going to make up the shortfall.Someone should inform these privileged morons in Canberra that this isn't the 60's. You want something approaching full employment? Move to China because we'll never see it here again.

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Thank you Debra ๐Ÿ™‚ ๐Ÿ™‚  yes the job creation is an issue.  One of my DD IQ 42 has been doing Tafe, they are telling her she will have a job in a few years time.  Reality check no one will employ people with multiple disabilities in the severe to moderate range (not round here anyway), they lie to these kids so they can get their funding.  It annoys me no end and the parents are left to pick up the pieces.

 

But yeah I don't get why a million people are happy with Turnbull when in reality the policies have not change one bit.

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@bella_again wrote:

Thank you Debra ๐Ÿ™‚ ๐Ÿ™‚  yes the job creation is an issue.  One of my DD IQ 42 has been doing Tafe, they are telling her she will have a job in a few years time.  Reality check no one will employ people with multiple disabilities in the severe to moderate range (not round here anyway), they lie to these kids so they can get their funding.  It annoys me no end and the parents are left to pick up the pieces.

 

But yeah I don't get why a million people are happy with Turnbull when in reality the policies have not change one bit.


Yes we all wonder that? it was a concerted hate campaign from day one with Abbott and it's still going.

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I think the majority of people are so relieved to get rid of abbott that they'd be happy with anyone else Bella

 

it's the policies that really ned to be looked at though

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Corporate tax secrecy just reached a new level of farce. 

*It turns out the Senate was successfully lobbied to support corporate tax secrecy laws by a families institute that represented "no"families.*1 

Everyone is entitled to express their views, but they shouldn't be allowed to hide or misrepresent who they're speaking for through faceless groups. 

It just so happens this "institute" was set up just days after the legislation was introduced, by people who represent some of the richest private companies in Australia, and clearly want their tax secrets to stay secret. *But the senators didn't know that (and didn't ask).* 

The senators say they're "embarrased", but that's not good enough - we need answers and we need to make sure that our democracy isn't hijacked like this again. 

*Click here to demand the Senate committee investigate these shadowy groups that represent no one.


This joins other face-palm moments over the last few months of the corporate tax secrecy debate, including: 

* *Kidnapping? Really?* The Government claimed corporate tax secrecy was needed to protect wealthy company owners from kidnapping, but neither asked for nor received advice from police or security agencies about this non-existent threat;2

* *Faceless Tax Dodgers.* The Tax Office revealed 1 in 5 major private companies paid no tax last year, but they can't reveal the names because the Senate passed corporate tax secrecy;3

* *Senate Drops Ball.* Labor, Greens and crossbench Senators allowed the corporate tax secrecy law to pass "without a proper vote".4*It's secrecy, wrapped in incompetence, inside a deceit.* From the beginning hidden vested interests have been toying with our democracy and playing the community for chumps. It's time for the community to fight back. 

*Let's demand the Senate Committee investigate these faceless groups, so this perversion of democratic process can't happen again: http://www.getup.org.au/corporate-tax-email
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The trade union royal commission has apologised to Bill Shorten's lawyers for not returning their phone calls before a raft of documents were released late last Friday night that concerned, in part, the federal Opposition Leader's time as leader of the Australian Workers Union.

And the commission's solicitor assisting, James Beaton, has insisted that the timing of the document release - after newspaper deadlines and evening radio and TV bulletins - was in no way designed to avoid media scrutiny.

 
 
Odd is the only way to describe  some of things this RC do
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US corporations avoid an estimated $2 billion tax every year in Australia: report

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