Diary of our stinking Govt.

[boris1gary]

As it's more than 100 days now, it has been suggested that a new thread was needed.  The current govt has been breaking promises and telling lies at a rate so fast it's hard to keep up.

This below is worrying, "independent" pffft, as if your own doctor is somehow what? biased, it's ridiculous. So far there is talk of only including people under a certain age 30-35, for now. Remember that if your injured in a car, injured at work or get ill, you too might need to go on the DSP. They have done a similar think in the UK with devastating consequences.

and this is the 2nd time recently where the Govt has referred to work as welfare???? So when you go to work tomorrow (or tuesday), just remember that's welfare.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-04-20/disability-pensioners-may-be-reassessed-kevin-andrews/5400598

Independent doctors could be called in to reassess disability pensioners, Federal Government says

The Federal Government is considering using independent doctors to examine disability pensioners and assess whether they should continue to receive payments.

Currently family doctors provide reports supporting claims for the Disability Support Pension (DSP).

But Social Services Minister Kevin Andrews is considering a measure that would see independent doctors reassess eligibility.

"We are concerned that where people can work, the best form of welfare is work," Mr Andrews said at a press conference.

[davidc4430]

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@chameleon54 wrote:

An article in " The Advertiser " a week or so ago claimed there was one doctor for every ten asylum seekers on Naru. If this is true it makes you wonder what we could do for our own indigenous Australians or homeless people if the resources dedicated to these people where instead directed to Australians in need.

My view is if there are people who are found to be genuinely in danger in their own country, such as ethnic minorities from Africa, let them into Australia and give them refuge. If they are simply economic migrants, send them back to their country of origin and make them apply for citizenship through the proper channels, just like other economic migrants.

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thats nice but the subject of 'boat people' has become so screwed up that now niether labor nor liberal will 'do the right thing' with these people.

that is, figure out who they are and where they came from and why they were on a carpy boat trying to get to australia.

they are pre judged, on a boat, you cant come here.

if a person or a family has escaped from say Iraq during the time we were helping to bomb the carp outta the place then we should be welcoming them here no matter how they get here. (or get caught trying to get here)

that goes for a lot of other places we are 'helping' the USA bomb the carp out of.

i'm far more concerned by the 'plane people', the ones who arrive on planes for a holiday and never leave.

[twyngwyn]

https://www.change.org/p/i-support-msf-s-call-to-immediately-evacuate-asylum-seekers-refugees-from-n...

[davidc4430]

i heard today on abc radio adelaide that some familys from Naru have been brought to adelaide in the past week so the kids could get medical treatment.

so the morning anouncers getting wind of this claim tried to get details and were stone walled pretty much.

but it seems to be true, no ones claiming its not true just not saying anything.

so the anouncers called the south australian attourney general, ms chapman, she knew nothing (so she said) beyond the media reports!

so our feds are transferring these dangerous individuls to south australia and not even informing the south australian LEBERAL government.

btw, what happened to the "These people will NEVER step foot in Australia" claim.

seems on the quiet they are sneaking them into australia and hoping no one notices.

[icyfroth]

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@davidc4430 wrote:

i heard today on abc radio adelaide that some familys from Naru have been brought to adelaide in the past week so the kids could get medical treatment.

so the morning anouncers getting wind of this claim tried to get details and were stone walled pretty much.

but it seems to be true, no ones claiming its not true just not saying anything.

so the anouncers called the south australian attourney general, ms chapman, she knew nothing (so she said) beyond the media reports!

so our feds are transferring these dangerous individuls to south australia and not even informing the south australian LEBERAL government.

btw, what happened to the "These people will NEVER step foot in Australia" claim.

seems on the quiet they are sneaking them into australia and hoping no one notices.

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Which sends a message to ppl smugglers that Australian Governments are all **bleep** and wind, and if you pay enough and explore all the legal loopholes, you WILL get into Australia.

[the_great_she_elephant]

Icyfroth wrote: so our feds are transferring these dangerous individuls to south australia and not even informing the south australian LEBERAL government.

What makes you assume they are dangerous?

[icyfroth]

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@the_great_she_elephant wrote:

Icyfroth wrote: so our feds are transferring these dangerous individuls to south australia and not even informing the south australian LEBERAL government.

What makes you assume they are dangerous?

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What makes you assume I made that comment?

If you take the time to read back, rather than rushing in for the attack, you may find that was actually Dave's comment.

[davidc4430]

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@the_great_she_elephant wrote:

Icyfroth wrote: so our feds are transferring these dangerous individuls to south australia and not even informing the south australian LEBERAL government.

What makes you assume they are dangerous?

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i was not serious, i have allways felt they should have been brought to australia right from day one.

i never had a problem with anyone coming here once we (our government) joined the bombing of foriegn countries because the yanks told us to.

[davidc4430]

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@davidc4430 wrote:

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@the_great_she_elephant wrote:

Icyfroth wrote: so our feds are transferring these dangerous individuls to south australia and not even informing the south australian LEBERAL government.

What makes you assume they are dangerous?

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i was not serious, i have allways felt they should have been brought to australia right from day one.

i never had a problem with anyone coming here once we (our government) joined the bombing of foriegn countries because the yanks told us to.

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i also know my view is NOT the view of either major party and a lot of my fellow aussies, but its my view.

people coming to australia in ricketty boats in my view will not bring our great country to its knees.

and real terrorists dont come by ricketty boats either, they come on lovely big planes along with millions of other people from far away. they dont have 'terrorist' tattooed on their forheads.

i cant proove it but i'm pretty sure most terrorist attacks are done by citizens of the countries where the attack occurs.

not often they travel thousands of Kms to blow something up.

[icyfroth]

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@davidc4430 wrote:

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@the_great_she_elephant wrote:

Icyfroth wrote: so our feds are transferring these dangerous individuls to south australia and not even informing the south australian LEBERAL government.

What makes you assume they are dangerous?

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i was not serious, i have allways felt they should have been brought to australia right from day one.

i never had a problem with anyone coming here once we (our government) joined the bombing of foriegn countries because the yanks told us to.

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Kind of agree with that. If we don't want refugees, we should stop joining with the US and the UK in bombing their cities and driving them out of their homes.

Trouble is, people smugglers don't care about the humanitarian considerations. They'll just take money from anyone who can afford to jump the queue into Australia.

[chameleon54]

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i cant proove it but i'm pretty sure most terrorist attacks are done by citizens of the countries where the attack occurs.

not often they travel thousands of Kms to blow something up.

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I suspect on one level you are probably right about this Dave. BUT the unfortunate truth is the citizens of countries that blow stuff up are often either relatively new migrants who have been given asylum or their children who are radicalised by religious extremists, sometimes within their new home country or through the  internet.