Displacing Indigenous Australians

[donnashuggy]

I'm extremely confused, are they or aren't they?

[rabbitearbandicoot]

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@the*scarlet*pimpernel wrote:

Rabbit, where did you get the information from that says each of these 274 communities HAS to have a doctor, i.e. 274 doctors to service the communities etc.

The outback doesn't work like that. Never has. You have flying doctors,visting medico's, social workers whatever. Same as the isolated white fella communities. 

You people have had thousands of years to to adapt to living in and maintaining homes, working for a wage etc. and you expect the aboriginals to adapt and assimilate overnight. Build them a nice 3 bedroom house and then complain when it gets trashed, but hey, maybe you should have studied the dynamics of an aboriginal family before shoving them in a white fella box.  It's not Mum, Dad and 2.5 children in that house, it's also aunt, uncle, cuz, nephews, neices and blow-ins from down the track. 

We have a unique culture here, and unlike the ancient egyptians and romans, the australian aboriginal culture is still alive. The word assimilate makes me shudder.  I believe the people should be allowed to stay in their remote communities and whatever the cost is of looking after them, well they're probably owed that much in rent anyway

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and round-and-round we go. We 'shoved them in a white fella box' - if the Gov doesn't provide housing  - 'it's disgusting, we should provide them a house' - either they want to live traditional lives or they don't.

[gleee58]

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@rabbitearbandicoot wrote:

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@the*scarlet*pimpernel wrote:

Rabbit, where did you get the information from that says each of these 274 communities HAS to have a doctor, i.e. 274 doctors to service the communities etc.

The outback doesn't work like that. Never has. You have flying doctors,visting medico's, social workers whatever. Same as the isolated white fella communities. 

You people have had thousands of years to to adapt to living in and maintaining homes, working for a wage etc. and you expect the aboriginals to adapt and assimilate overnight. Build them a nice 3 bedroom house and then complain when it gets trashed, but hey, maybe you should have studied the dynamics of an aboriginal family before shoving them in a white fella box.  It's not Mum, Dad and 2.5 children in that house, it's also aunt, uncle, cuz, nephews, neices and blow-ins from down the track. 

We have a unique culture here, and unlike the ancient egyptians and romans, the australian aboriginal culture is still alive. The word assimilate makes me shudder.  I believe the people should be allowed to stay in their remote communities and whatever the cost is of looking after them, well they're probably owed that much in rent anyway

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and round-and-round we go. We 'shoved them in a white fella box' - if the Gov doesn't provide housing  - 'it's disgusting, we should provide them a house' - either they want to live traditional lives or they don't.

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and either way some people will still insist on using them as an easy open target for vitriol.

[lionrose.7]

Yes Glee,

Think some people always need to beat down some one.

Lets see, Muslims under the bed.

Beneficiaries

Now Aboriginals.

Who will be next on the list

[the*scarlet*pimpernel · Accepted solution]

and round-and-round we go. We 'shoved them in a white fella box' - if the Gov doesn't provide housing  - 'it's disgusting, we should provide them a house' - either they want to live traditional lives or they don't.

The ones sitting in the dirt up there under a tree in WA do want to live traditional lives, isn't that the whole point of this thread? But they will get forced off their patch of dirt, stuck in a house they don't know how to look after, assimilate in to a township where they have access to grog, high carb foods and all that other goodstuff that shortens their life expectancy, are expected to get a job (according to abbott) but I ask you, who is going to employ them? I could go on and on and debate but I'll only end up angry so I won't say any more. 

[donnashuggy]

Very well said

[donnashuggy]

They are also good for the land, something that rarely gets mentioned.

[rabbitearbandicoot]

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@the*scarlet*pimpernel wrote:

You people have had thousands of years to to adapt to living in and maintaining homes, working for a wage etc. and you expect the aboriginals to adapt and assimilate overnight. 

 I believe the people should be allowed to stay in their remote communities and whatever the cost is of looking after them, well they're probably owed that much in rent anyway

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I believe that people should be allowed to stay in their remote communities if that's what they want.

BUT ...  how many thousands of years is the Government supposed to pay that rent until they adapt?

How many hundreds of generations of people have to apologise for England deciding to send settlers / convicts to Australia?

[donnashuggy]

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@rabbitearbandicoot wrote:

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@the*scarlet*pimpernel wrote:

You people have had thousands of years to to adapt to living in and maintaining homes, working for a wage etc. and you expect the aboriginals to adapt and assimilate overnight. 

 I believe the people should be allowed to stay in their remote communities and whatever the cost is of looking after them, well they're probably owed that much in rent anyway

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I believe that people should be allowed to stay in their remote communities if that's what they want.

BUT ...  how many thousands of years is the Government supposed to pay that rent until they adapt?

How many hundreds of generations of people have to apologise for England deciding to send settlers / convicts to Australia?

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I think about 200 years from now sounds fair, why should they adapt? After 200 years perhaps society has moved on and sees the value in keeping indigenous on their land and they wont be treated so poorly so it won't even need to be questioned

[gleee58 · Accepted solution]

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@rabbitearbandicoot wrote:

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@the*scarlet*pimpernel wrote:

You people have had thousands of years to to adapt to living in and maintaining homes, working for a wage etc. and you expect the aboriginals to adapt and assimilate overnight. 

 I believe the people should be allowed to stay in their remote communities and whatever the cost is of looking after them, well they're probably owed that much in rent anyway

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I believe that people should be allowed to stay in their remote communities if that's what they want.

BUT ...  how many thousands of years is the Government supposed to pay that rent until they adapt?

How many hundreds of generations of people have to apologise for England deciding to send settlers / convicts to Australia?

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Do you read what you write before posting?

DO you call yourself Christian?

How are the government paying their rent for them to live on their own lands?   Here's the thing, it's not been hundreds of generations nor has it been thousands of years, since the English arrived with their convicts and rejects.   

[donnashuggy]

The only reason I say 200 years is the minimum because of the 200 or so years their lives were destroyed. Call it pay back