on 21-03-2013 12:24 PM
on 21-03-2013 10:05 PM
What Pepe said.
Who'd be a politician, doesn't matter what you say, how you word things people still going to take offence no matter what. You just can't keep everyone happy.
I'd say the results of this poll says it all really.
on 21-03-2013 10:19 PM
Birth mothers is insenitive....who knew. 86% on this poll says no. I guess this does show that the op has her hidden adenda but it didn't work out for her this time.
on 21-03-2013 10:19 PM
what else would we call these women?....birth mother is the correct term. imo some go overboard? dreadful to be forced to give up a child but that doesn't mean birth mother is not the correct term. egg donar???????
Incubator would be my pick..
on 21-03-2013 10:27 PM
Donna, if I just read your question and new absolutely nothing about the apology our PM gave today where the use of the term by Tony Abbott upset some .(possibly mothers who had their babies taken...perhaps even right after birth).For which he apologised after hearing their response.
I would have just have voted No .
on 21-03-2013 10:44 PM
Donna, if I just read your question and new absolutely nothing about the apology our PM gave today where the use of the term by Tony Abbott upset some .(possibly mothers who had their babies taken...perhaps even right after birth).For which he apologised after hearing their response.
I would have just have voted No .
How about you take out the political parties and make a decision on the poll then? Which is, Do you think Birth Mothers is an insensitive comment?
The fact that it's all political to some also denigrates the BIRTH mothers who were forced to relinquish the children they gave birth to regardless of what these women wanted says it all.
on 21-03-2013 11:10 PM
I'm still not exactly sure why the term is offensive. I still maintain that anyone who has given birth to a child is a birth mother. Is it because they wanted to be called just 'mothers'? So as not to make any reference to the whole adoption thing, which is why they were all there in the first place? Circles and roundabouts.
I think you can be a bit rabid about technicalities, which tends to detract from the whole point of today. I really want to see an explanation from those who heckled Tony Abbott, exactly what it is that offended them so much about the term 'birth mother'.
Some are offended because it implies there was choice.
The woman I just saw was told her baby died. She married the dad and had another son and st vinnies adopted her baby out.
on 21-03-2013 11:16 PM
Please explain how referring to someone as a birth mother implies there was a choice in regards to forced adoption.
on 21-03-2013 11:29 PM
Please explain how referring to someone as a birth mother implies there was a choice in regards to forced adoption.
I just repeated what I heard.
It's not my place to judge if that's reasonable or not. I'm not one of those lied to. I can't imagine fining out my dead baby was alive, years later.
I wondered if they had just heard that vinnies rejected the need for apology.
on 21-03-2013 11:33 PM
I was rather shocked to hear the heckling.
It did not fit the occasion.
on 21-03-2013 11:44 PM
I was rather shocked to hear the heckling.
It did not fit the occasion.
but that's what they said "Not those words" and it was clear in some of their reactions, they flinched. They view it as a term reserved for those who had a choice.