on โ04-03-2015 10:24 AM
Prime Minister Tony Abbott says he believes a meeting between federal, state and territory leaders is the best forum to tackle domestic violence.
His comment follows a call by Opposition Leader Bill Shorten in January for a national crisis summit on the issue so survivors, police, child protection officers, women's shelter staff, judges and federal, state and territory leaders could devise a national plan.
Seventeen in every 100 Australian women has faced violence from a current or previous partner, and on average one is killed each week.
"It's a national disgrace," Mr Shorten told reporters in Canberra.
What do you think needs to see changed ??
on โ06-03-2015 06:50 PM
I do wish domestic violence against men was concentrated on more in both the media and the public psyche: statistics are unreliable as most men who are victims of abuse perpetrated by female partners feel shame and almost never contact authorities. It wouldn't surprise me if just as many men are abused by females as the other way around, in fact more so.
It seems quite alright in our society if a woman retaliates against a man who is beating her - in fact, most women on this forum and elsewhere would not mind at all if the abused female killed her attacker. And yet, should a man of equal size, weight and strength hit a woman back after she attacks him, all hell breaks loose.
Double standard IMO...
on โ06-03-2015 07:04 PM
@grace.under.water wrote:I do wish domestic violence against men was concentrated on more in both the media and the public psyche: statistics are unreliable as most men who are victims of abuse perpetrated by female partners feel shame and almost never contact authorities. It wouldn't surprise me if just as many men are abused by females as the other way around, in fact more so.
It seems quite alright in our society if a woman retaliates against a man who is beating her - in fact, most women on this forum and elsewhere would not mind at all if the abused female killed her attacker. And yet, should a man of equal size, weight and strength hit a woman back after she attacks him, all hell breaks loose.
Double standard IMO...
Perhaps you would provide us with a list of men killed by their female partners.
How many men have been killed by women this year so far?
How many men have been admitted to hospital with serious injury?
How many men have been forced into homelessness because they need to escape the home to keep their children safe?
Domestic violence does not affect men to the same extent as women. FACT!
on โ06-03-2015 07:17 PM
It's not a competition though.
Domestic Violence goes both ways. And then factor into the discussion those who choose to deliberatly cause it. If you don't think that happens, go out in the real world.
While it's mostly females who are the victims, this generation is learning very fast.
โ06-03-2015 07:20 PM - edited โ06-03-2015 07:22 PM
You obviously didn't read my comment and you completely missed the point:
Perhaps you would provide us with a list of men killed by their female partners.
Women are more cunning than men; more likely to commit the perfect murder and police and juries are more likely to sympathise with a crying, shaking female widow than a man whose wife has died under mysterious circumstances: in short, women are better actors.
How many men have been killed by women this year so far?
How would I know how many women have gotten away with murder? Thousands, probably... I said women were cunning and manipulative, not stupid...
How many men have been admitted to hospital with serious injury?
Thousands and thousands - only male pride and shame prevents them from blaming their female spouse - that was the point I was making, didn't you read it?
How many men have been forced into homelessness because they need to escape the home to keep their children safe?
Considering the thousands more homeless men I see in the streets compared to females, I imagine alot more. However, when male members of a family develop a mental illness they are more often than not abandoned while females undergoing mental disturbances receive alot more sympathy from families. If you understood the homeless situation like I do, you would be familiar with the fact that most homeless people living on the streets are not the abused females running from insane husbands you see in movies and TV shows: it's young adult men with severe mental and psychotic problems - often abandoned by females in the families who can't and won't deal with their problems. There are many resources out there to help battered women - far less to help mentally disturbed men, hence the far greater proportion of men on the streets living in poverty - most of them have no way to make a living out of prositution either so their situation is far more dire. Thankyou for giving me the opportunity to highlight this ๐
Domestic violence does not affect men to the same extent as women. FACT!
Wrong - you have no proof to what extent domestic violence affects men because female crimes against men almost always go unreported. Any policeman and policewoman will back me up on this. FACT! Please read my comments more carefully in future.
โ06-03-2015 07:22 PM - edited โ06-03-2015 07:26 PM
on โ06-03-2015 08:34 PM
@nevynreally wrote:It's not a competition though.
Domestic Violence goes both ways. And then factor into the discussion those who choose to deliberatly cause it. If you don't think that happens, go out in the real world.
While it's mostly females who are the victims, this generation is learning very fast.
I know for a fact that it happens, I had a sister in law who would goad her husband until he finally lashed out and hit her.
I was a witness to her goading once, all her husband was doing was sitting on the sofa watching tv, it was 11.30 on a Sunday night, she wanted to go out and kept nagging him, telling him he was lazy, selfish and only thought of himself. He ignored her but she just got more and more insulting telling him he wasn't a man and that real men took their wives out whenever they wanted to go. This goading was accompanied by pokes to the chest, slaps on his arms and finally a punch to his head.
Society would judge him as being abusive because he hit her but she threw the first punch and later when I asked why she had pushed him until he hit her she said...I love getting him all riled up,it makes me feel good.
on โ06-03-2015 08:38 PM
The fact is that at least 16 women have been killed by male partners or exes.
When you can show similar numbers of men that have been killed by their female partners or exes you can make the claim that it's the same for both genders. At present it is not.
on โ06-03-2015 08:43 PM
@gleee58 wrote:The fact is that at least 16 women have been killed by male partners or exes.
When you can show similar numbers of men that have been killed by their female partners or exes you can make the claim that it's the same for both genders. At present it is not.
Bigger picture. Unless you've lived through what ever avenue, you have no idea.
on โ06-03-2015 08:43 PM
@lyne-flyn wrote:
@nevynreally wrote:It's not a competition though.
Domestic Violence goes both ways. And then factor into the discussion those who choose to deliberatly cause it. If you don't think that happens, go out in the real world.
While it's mostly females who are the victims, this generation is learning very fast.
I know for a fact that it happens, I had a sister in law who would goad her husband until he finally lashed out and hit her.
I was a witness to her goading once, all her husband was doing was sitting on the sofa watching tv, it was 11.30 on a Sunday night, she wanted to go out and kept nagging him, telling him he was lazy, selfish and only thought of himself. He ignored her but she just got more and more insulting telling him he wasn't a man and that real men took their wives out whenever they wanted to go. This goading was accompanied by pokes to the chest, slaps on his arms and finally a punch to his head.
Society would judge him as being abusive because he hit her but she threw the first punch and later when I asked why she had pushed him until he hit her she said...I love getting him all riled up,it makes me feel good.
Exactly - that is the mindset of many women: not all of them want to be hit back, but they all want to rile the men. Then they are not prepared for the circumstances. It must have been uncomfortable fro you to watch.
on โ06-03-2015 08:45 PM
You still don't get it.
When men abuse/kill a woman it is a cut-and-dried case.
When a woman abuses/kills a man, society turns a blind eye.
Just like you are doing right now.
No need to respond. You have an agenda and will be sticking to it. ๐