Drag queens reading to kids

[davidc4430]

Drag queens reading to kids in Brisbane library confronted by UQ Liberal National Club members

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-01-13/lnp-distances-itself-from-drag-queen-protesters/11861762

[icyfroth]

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@davewil1964 wrote:

One woman's tripe is many millions of readers' steak.

Plus peer judgement. Many nominations and several awards

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Yeah, Barbara Cartland had millions of readers too.

[davewil1964]

If you're interested in bodice-ripping romance, you read Cartland.

If you're interested in satirical F&SF, you read Pratchett.

If you're not interested in them and don't bother to read them, you really don't have a point on which you can criticize them. Except for your personal opinion, that many millions would dispute. So you are in a minority, yet again.

Cartland and Pratchett made pretty good livings with what they wrote, so there are readers and publishers who would consider you to be irrelevant. They had plenty of people who were prepared to pay money for their works, so those who didn't, by definition, didn't fall into their target market.

For the record, I've never read Cartland, and only 1 Pratchett. Discworld didn't do anything for me, but I don't judge authors by what I think. I just don't read their other offerings.

Lucky for me, the first Roger Zelazny I read wasn't 'The Dream Master', Nebula winning. That didn't do anything for me, but almost all of the rest of his output I lapped up.

Try another one. Even a Cartland.

[the_great_she_elephant]

I find it surprising that someone could write a book off as tripe after reading only two pages. 

[4channel]

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@icyfroth wrote:

Yeah, that was a very successful deflection manoeuvre of She-el's, making a comparison between Elvis's pelvis action and the oscene and overt genital thrusting action by some of the participants in the Mardi Gras, 4channel. 

There's no comparison, of coursed.

Elvis did not dress in women's clothing, and he did not read storybooks to children in libraries. nor was his form of entertainment directed at children.

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Absolutely there is no comparison icyfroth! With Elvis, he was aimed at the record buying public. With drag queens in libraries, they are aimed at children. And I think you also suggested "Why drag queens"? Well, that is what people should be asking themselves. The drag queens are not part of a pool of a few thousand story readers who are randomly selected, they are deliberately selected for a reason.

Besides the obvious agenda that is behind drag queens reading to children, we have to look at what they soak up. Children can become very captivated by television or books being read to them. The medium is also an integral part of this. Having read multiple discussions about this issue and having viewed clips on-line, I've noticed that many concerned parties believe that the children are being conditioned. Sure kids should be taught  respect people who have certain lifestyles or have a need to portray themselves in a way other than their birth gender dictates. However this is seen by many to be going way to far and with impressionable young minds, it is way way too early to give developing minds the idea of a third gender.

I mentioned earlier on about a young guy being raised by his mum. He thought he was a girl trapped in a man'ss body and wanted to have a sex chsnge. He was put on female hormone tablets or possibly puberty blockers (I just remembered something) . Thiss continued for a while. Then at some stage he worked out he was a boy after all. Thank goodness he didn't have the operation. Anyway, he had to go on male hormones to set things right.

I believe that influence has a lot to do with things. Sure some is hormonal and some may be born a certain way. But again it comes down to what should be done. And that is just let the little bioys be little boys and let the little girlls be little girls. If rhere comes a time when they are old enough to decide and realize that they are someone other than the normal man to worman and woman too man attaction or theirr male and female birth genders, then that's fine. They will have the support. We are after all in the age now of ... "It's cool to be gay" type of thing. (There's another topic for discussion right there).

[davewil1964]

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@the_great_she_elephant wrote:

I find it surprising that someone could write a book off as tripe after reading only two pages. 

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I give them 50.

Because of the hype I gave 'The Wheel of Time' 200. And that was really only because I bought the, then, 8 volumes in a lot.

I was ready to give it away at 201; it was very derivative of Tolkien at that point.

[katistrophik]

I am a bit like Icy, although I usually persevere through a chapter, [you know, give a chance to pick up] but I just know by the style of writing if it is going to be for me or not.

[davewil1964]

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@katistrophik wrote:

I am a bit like Icy, although I usually persevere through a chapter, [you know, give a chance to pick up] but I just know by the style of writing if it is going to be for me or not.

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2 pages rarely a chapter makes.

[the_great_she_elephant]

 4channel wrote: there is no comparison icyfroth! With Elvis, he was aimed at the record buying public. With drag queens in libraries, they are aimed at children. 

Well I have to agree with you there, 4channel,

Elvis's,while  performing on TV,  gyrated  and pelvic thrust in order to 'turn on' his audience.

Drag queens, while  reading to children  in libraries  do not gyrate or pelvic thrust in an attempt to 'turn on' their audience

[4channel]

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@lalbo-81 wrote:

The difference is that men dressed as women are reading to children, while male rock stars dressed in their men's clothing making pelvic thrusts 50 years ago, are not reading to children.

If you have a problem with the concept, don't take your grandchildren to storytime, if you have any, that is. And don't take them to a "No" theater performance. And don't take them to any Renaissance fairs! And don't let them watch Milton Berle, or Flip Wilson, Or Dame Edna! Or Benny Hill, or The Monty Python show, God forbid! 

@icyfroth wrote:

My grandchildren are grown up, and can do as they please. Except the little fella in England, who's only 4 and I certainly wouldn't take a small child to any of the abvementioned.

@lalbo-81 wrote:

 As a matter of fact, you should probably just wrap then in bubble wrap and cotton batting and lock them in their rooms with no tv,computers, phones or current books/magazines too. It's the only way to PROTECT THEIR FRAGILE MINDS!!!! 

@icyfroth wrote:

Totally over the top as usual.

I would certainly not be taking them to libraries to be read to by drag queens, or anyone else, for that matter. I used to read to them at bedtime until they were old enough to read themselves.

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Reply to icyfroth: You have values that were the norm. They are still cherished by many and there is hope as many parents who have realized that there are certain things that children should not be exposed to. Many of these parrents are also health aware. Lets hope so as it would be good to see a new generation of wholesome healthy people.

[4channel]

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@the_great_she_elephant wrote:

 4channel wrote: there is no comparison icyfroth! With Elvis, he was aimed at the record buying public. With drag queens in libraries, they are aimed at children. 

Well I have to agree with you there, 4channel,

Elvis's,while  performing on TV,  gyrated  and pelvic thrust in order to 'turn on' his audience.

Drag queens, while  reading to children  in libraries  do not gyrate or pelvic thrust in an attempt to 'turn on' their audience

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Yeah, Elvis could shake it and he had fhe footwork as well. He was a terrific dancer.

Elvis Sings Bossa Nova Baby (HD)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GanoEE7VUc

But with Elvis  there was no deliberate blatant copulatory movments (Mock intercourse thusts) like you see with drag queens. He never had his genitals hallf hanging out like some of the participants or dressed as a giant **bleep** in a parade that drag queens are nootoriously part of. And why all the sex stuff in these parades anyway?

It has also been noted earlier that one of the drag queens that was selected to read to children had lewd pictures of himself online. One of which was in a group setting with him foldling another man's genitals. Also mentioned was a convicted sex offender.