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@rabbitearbandicoot wrote:

"botany, biology, gentics and microbiology."

 

I have seen a few docos on genetics?

 

 

do you have any thing to read / watch ? preferably on-line.


Richard Dawkins: The Selfish Gene Explained

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9p2F2oa0_k

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@rabbitearbandicoot wrote:

@wilk1149 wrote:
I see so now you can just go and change the time frame for creation. From a week to millions of years yet religious scholars say the earth is fifteen thousand years old. As someone once said "you twist and turn like a twisty turny thing". Who really cares where we came from, we are all going to the same place and if you think you know where that is the you're a deluded fool. Do you remember anything from before you were conceived, NO. Will you remember anything after you die?

I assume you are talking to me? I have NEVER believed that the Creation was literal 'days'. Each 'day' or 'period' was an unknown period of time - millions, possibly billions of years long. I have never twisted or turned from that belief.  Some of those religious scholars you refer to actually think the whole galaxy is just over 6,000 years old. 

 

You are correct in saying that we are all going to the same place - but incorrect in your statement that I do not know - I guess that makes me a deluded fool in your opinion - so be it. We are all going to the same place - it's NOT to burn in HELL or to Heaven. The place is called 'the grave' - of course that could be a jar on the mantlepiece somewhere or a plot of ground.

 

You are also correct in saying we cannot remember before we were born - we are NOT pre-existing Spirit creatures as some would tell you - we have NO ETERNAL SOUL - we have NOT existed before - when we die 'our thoughts do perish'.

 

And correct again - we will not remember anything after we die finally. * I say finally to negate the ones who will say, I died once on an operating table but they brought me back.

 

I do believe that animals, plants etc have evolved since originally Created. As I have said many times, of course things change to suit environment.

 

Finally, I do believe there is an ALMIGHTY GOD. I do believe in Jesus and his sacrifice. I do believe in his promise of a Resurrection.

 

** Does that sum it up for everyone?


 

Ummm, even if you want to use the genesis as period. You do realise the book got that wrong too right with the ordering. Why don't you just accept that the bible is not a science book???

 

I do believe that animals, plants etc have evolved since originally Created. As I have said many times, of course things change to suit environment.

Somehow the rest of us here think you pretend not to know since you keep bringing up hoax/frauds disproving evolution. Which is it. Do you accept the evidence point towards evolution or creationism???. Catholics, the pope fully accept evolution. 

Explain to me what Jesus sacrificed???? He didn't die. He is God afterall. Explain why killing an innocent person is the best way to forgive someone else's sin???? 

 

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@rabbitearbandicoot wrote:

@cmcoins2000 wrote:

AAHH,

 

Pardon me for being dense.

 

If you are going to spend your dead days in a jar on the mantle.

 

Resurrection seems a bit of a stretch.

 

Or am I missing something - like a bigger jar than I am imagining.


Doesn't have to be on a mantle somewhere - lots of people have their ashes scattered to the winds or in the sea.

 

Someone else asked this question - people who are buried end up as 'dust' eventually. So the difference between being so much 'dust' or some much 'ash' really isn't much. As far as Resurrection is concerned - don't you think that the Creator of all things, would know how to rebuild a body from either ash or dust  OR actually build a new, healthy one - I wouldn't want this old one with arthritis and kidney problems and no hair thanks.

 

And Yes, I know it sounds like a fairy tale, but the ODDS are no greater than 'everything began from NOTHING, then a Big Bang and then Life started from nothing and every life form on earth or in the sea morphed from a lifeless piece of space dust' - is it?.

 

All that believe in abiogenisis and a full fledged evolution from that point - go for it - believe what you want, but, it's not for me. Maybe I'll be disappointed when I die? BUT, hangon ... how can I be disappointed after I'm dead?

 

 

 

 


 

Explain to me how God created everything from nothing and how God came from nothing and suddenly became the most complex thing ever?

Can you explain to me why don't teach creationism in school?

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@**bob_on_the_go** wrote:


Explain to me how God created everything from nothing and how God came from nothing and suddenly became the most complex thing ever?

Can you explain to me why don't teach creationism in school?


They do in a way - Science - Biology - Mathematics etc.

 

Although it was thought necessary to teach religion in my school at the time - most of us skipped our own to go visit another - simply out of interest.

 

It wasn't a subject as such - no exams - so not much notice was taken.

 

To be honest I kind of envy those with faith - it isn't a matter of where one will end up - it is a matter of believing one will end up somewhere.

 

Would make losing loved ones easier & perhaps dying easier.

 

I don't believe.

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Oh did he????????

 

God I mean.

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@**bob_on_the_go** wrote:

 

Ummm, even if you want to use the genesis as period. You do realise the book got that wrong too right with the ordering. Why don't you just accept that the bible is not a science book???

 

I do believe that animals, plants etc have evolved since originally Created. As I have said many times, of course things change to suit environment.

Somehow the rest of us here think you pretend not to know since you keep bringing up hoax/frauds disproving evolution. Which is it. Do you accept the evidence point towards evolution or creationism???. Catholics, the pope fully accept evolution. 

Explain to me what Jesus sacrificed???? He didn't die. He is God afterall. Explain why killing an innocent person is the best way to forgive someone else's sin???? 

 

How is it wrong with the ordering?
"Keep bringing up hoaxes: - I have only brought up hoaxes in the last 3 days, since they were drawn to my attention.
I have said, probably at least a DOZEN times that I accept that things have evolved from their original. Do you read my posts at all? Or they all too long for you? HOW MANY MORE TIMES MUST I SAY IT?  I accept Creation, but I also accept that plants, animals etc have evoloved / changed because of environmental pressures over the millions/billions of years of creation..
Please don't quote to me what the Pope believes - he believes in HELLFIRE, Immortal Soul and HEAPS of other things that I don't. He is the last one I would ever ask for advice on anything.
Have you seen Passion of Christ or even the latest 'Son of God' - if you have you wouldn't need to ask what he sacrificed. The second most powerful being in the universe allowed himself to be beaten, whipped and spat on and then allowed himself to be killed in a manner of criminals.
"He is God after all." WRONG AGAIN BOB. How many times have I told you that Jesus is The Son Of God - NOT God himself. If he were God himself that would be an even greater sacrifice that he made wouldn't it?
"Explain why killing an innocent person ..." - I am not going to bother to explain propituatory sacrifice to you - you wouldn't read it anyway. Look it up.
In the meantime, please answer my question - How is Genesis wrong with the ordering?

 

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I am going out now for an hour, so I'll expect your response when I return.

 

That question again :"You do realise the book got that wrong too right with the ordering"

 

HOW? Explain to me how the ORDER IS WRONG.

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Contradictions in Genesis (order included)

 

http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/gen/contra_list.html

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Multiple Authors of Genesis

 

https://web.cn.edu/kwheeler/Genesis_texts.html

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@rabbitearbandicoot wrote:

I am going out now for an hour, so I'll expect your response when I return.

 



 

Careful, you're beginning to sound like your friend, the pussycat!

 

Sigh!   Would that theists woulfd learn to discuss religious concepts amicably - but...when someone insults/challenges their belief system, it's all-out war!!

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