For those that comment against conditions

[rogespeed]

For those that complain against social isolation and other measures to contain coronavirus citing relatively low casualty rates , and so seeking reducing or removing mitigation social conditions,  Ask yourself this : without the current containment measures how many extra cases would they be ? would our hospital system be overwhelmed and what would be the consequences , and would this result in proportionally many more severe cases, and so many more deaths . Think of those countries who did not respond quick enough. and ask yourself where you would rather live at this time . 

[icyfroth]

[icyfroth]

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@bright.ton42 wrote:

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@*kazumi* wrote:

Imagine how much complicated would tracing contact would be for somebody who travels on public transport to work, where they interact with large number of people, then after work go to pub, go to a party on the weekend, and their kids go to school, etc,  

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Put like that, and I agree with it,  one has to wonder will we ever be rid of it. 

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We may not, Bright.

We may have to live with it like we live with other infections, like the common cold. the 'flu, pneumonia.

Like we're living with cancer, obesity, heart disease, to name a few. Which are killing a lot more of our population annually than COVID-19.

[not_for_sale2025]

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@icyfroth wrote:

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We may not, Bright.

We may have to live with it like we live with other infections, like the common cold. the 'flu, pneumonia.

Like we're living with cancer, obesity, heart disease, to name a few. Which are killing a lot more of our population annually than COVID-19.

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"Annually"?? Covid 19 hasn't been around that long! Let's wait and see before we start making wild and unsubstantiated statements.

[icyfroth]

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@not_for_sale2025 wrote:

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@icyfroth wrote:

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We may not, Bright.

We may have to live with it like we live with other infections, like the common cold. the 'flu, pneumonia.

Like we're living with cancer, obesity, heart disease, to name a few. Which are killing a lot more of our population annually than COVID-19.

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"Annually"?? Covid 19 hasn't been around that long! Let's wait and see before we start making wild and unsubstantiated statements.

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But wer'e taking much harder measures against COVID than any other diseases that our society harbours, which kill many more than Covid, which we supposedly have under control.

Have we closed down our economy, risked our children's education, pressed ouf population into unemployment, locked our seniors into virtual prisons in their aged care facilities for any of the above?

[not_for_sale2025]

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@icyfroth wrote:

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But wer'e taking much harder measures against it than any other diseases that our society harbours, which kill many more than Covid. Which we supposedly have under control.

Have we closed down our economy, risked our children's education, pressed ouf population into unemployment, locked our seniors into virtual prisons in their aged care facilities for any of the above?

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Icy, you are talking about known diseases and infections which we 'supposedly' have under control. But some are not under control in the third world countries. Many people are dying each day of diseases we have never seen in our country or have not seen for decades. But I guess when it's out of sight it's out of mind and we feel good as long as we feel safe.

However, Covid 19 is not understood yet and is behaving in ways that are potentially worrying. Some people have had three infections simultaneously and many who coped with the first infection did not do well with the reinfection. We don't know if other strains are going to emerge or whether it can mutate. It is killing a lot of people across the world and a variant may be far worse. This could be just another bug that we get the better of, or it could be the beginning of a global horror. One thing is for certain, it is in Australia!

[icyfroth]

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@not_for_sale2025 wrote:

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@icyfroth wrote:

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But wer'e taking much harder measures against it than any other diseases that our society harbours, which kill many more than Covid. Which we supposedly have under control.

Have we closed down our economy, risked our children's education, pressed ouf population into unemployment, locked our seniors into virtual prisons in their aged care facilities for any of the above?

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Icy, you are talking about known diseases and infections which we 'supposedly' have under control. But some are not under control in the third world countries. Many people are dying each day of diseases we have never seen in our country or have not seen for decades. But I guess when it's out of sight it's out of mind and we feel good as long as we feel safe.

However, Covid 19 is not understood yet and is behaving in ways that are potentially worrying. Some people have had three infections simultaneously and many who coped with the first infection did not do well with the reinfection. We don't know if other strains are going to emerge or whether it can mutate. It is killing a lot of people across the world and a variant may be far worse. This could be just another bug that we get the better of, or it could be the beginning of a global horror. One thing is for certain, it is in Australia!"

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Ok. It's an unkown. We don't know for sure. So why are we closing down our economy for an unknown? Potentially worrying? It IS worrying. As are the other diseases I've mentioned. Which we haven't shut down our economy about. Obviously, we don't take them seriously enough.

If COVID has the potential to be as deadly  as we think, wouldn't we be better to have an economy that can deal with the health care than shutting everything down and locking everyone up?

[not_for_sale2025]

I can't follow your logic Icy, it is far too simplistic for me. Stay well. 

[bright.ton42]

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@not_for_sale2025 wrote:

I can't follow your logic Icy, it is far too simplistic for me. Stay well. 

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Neither can I Icy.  You are not by far the bluntest knife in the box yet you can't  seem to  get your   head  around the difference between Covid and other diseases.   This difference is a well-worn record and I can't be bothered going into it yet again.  Anyway Vive la difference and all that in our opinions,  you keep yours while I will continue to maintain social distancing and wash my hands all the time. and hope I won't be slammed by this wretched virus.    btw just curious,  do you do these things or don't you think they're necessary. ?, 

[davewil1964]

It's not hard.

Heart disease, cancer, obesity and whatever else you mentioned as being 'worse' are not contagious. COVID-19 is. So slowing down the economy to mitigate the effects of COVID-19 is sensible. Slowing down the economy to mitigate the effects of the diseases you mentioned would make no difference. Except a weakened economy.

How about comparing apples to apples, not potatoes.

[icyfroth]

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@bright.ton42 wrote:

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@not_for_sale2025 wrote:

I can't follow your logic Icy, it is far too simplistic for me. Stay well. 

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Neither can I Icy.  You are not by far the bluntest knife in the box yet you can't  seem to  get your   head  around the difference between Covid and other diseases.   This difference is a well-worn record and I can't be bothered going into it yet again.  Anyway Vive la difference and all that in our opinions,  you keep yours while I will continue to maintain social distancing and wash my hands all the time. and hope I won't be slammed by this wretched virus.    btw just curious,  do you do these things or don't you think they're necessary. ?, 

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Are you kidding?

Have you heard the government message re a possible "second wave"

"Wash your hands often, maintain social distancing, stay at home as much as possible."

If that's all it takes, why are shutting down our whole economy and throwing at least 50% of our workforce into umemployment?