on 05-01-2013 05:22 PM
What do you know about it?
I was told that one Mason could identify another Mason by shaking hands with them.
Apparently they have some special secret handshake.
on 05-01-2013 09:29 PM
so once you become a freemason, can you quit?
How do they make sure you keep their secrets?
I mean the elderly gent I was talking to was very tight lipped, but I am pretty sure he has not gone to any meetings or anything in probably 30 odd years, as his wife was quite vocal about it - said she told him before they were married that she wouldnt marry him if he didn't quit. and they have been married over 50 years, so I guess she would know if he went to a meeting every thursday night or so.
on 05-01-2013 09:40 PM
My sister works as a waitress in a restaurant where they regularly have dinners. The harassment and bum pinching she endures from that mob is astounding considering most of them are married men. Disgusting behaviour from any man married or not.
What does her boss do about the behaviour?
No one should have to put up with that at work.
Or is the behaviour tolerated in order to keep the booking?
on 05-01-2013 09:44 PM
so once you become a freemason, can you quit?
My husband quit.
How do they make sure you keep their secrets?
Some people have integrity, I guess they suss that out early before they invite them?
on 05-01-2013 09:53 PM
Was it true/ or is it still true, that you couldn't join the freemason's unless a current member nominated you?
on 05-01-2013 09:57 PM
i didnt know Kevin Rudd attended parliamentary prayer group...I wasnt aware there was one.
on 05-01-2013 09:57 PM
I read about that today Am.
It said that they don't do it by solicitation that they have to wait until the person approaches them. However, I think it did say that a member had to vouch for you, and that the members got to vote if you joined or not. How many no's you got was up to each chapter though. In some one is enough to not allow you entry.
You also have to have at least two referrees who will vouch for your character.
on 05-01-2013 10:02 PM
One of the fundamentals of Freemasonry is tolerance.
If new members have to be vouched for, consideration as to whether they would leak secrets out if they cease to be a member must be part of that.
Must have been easier in the past years, when grandfathers,sons, grandsons, uncles, BIL's of same families all belonged. I can't imagine one leaving and letting out freemason secrets if majority of the males in their family still belonged.
on 05-01-2013 10:29 PM
My Grandfather was an active Mason most of his adult life. He died 1 1/2 years ago, I guess he stopped going about 10 years before that, but only due to fraility.
He was the most beautiful person ever, no way would he belong to anything that was not aboveboard.
He used to go every Wednesday night when we lived at Canungra, when I was a kid. My brother and I were in awe every time seeing him dressed in his black suit and carrying his briefcase. We were in a little country town, never saw that get up any other time.
It was very secretive. I was told by my Dad when Pop died, that that my Nan played a mean trick on him. We as a family on/off quizzed him about the Lodge, but he would never say anything, then one day he said: "if I told you and the Lodge found out, you would find me floating down the river." Now I know he was joking, but the thought terrified me at the time and I never asked again. Even tho I had to have it explained to me what floating down the river meant!
Anyways, the trick. One morning Nan said that she knew what he got up to at the Lodge. She told him he had been talking about Lodge business in his sleep. Well, apparently that nearly did his head in, he was very worried and in turn was quizzing her about what he had said, but she did not budge. Dad said she never told him the truth till he retired. Poor Pop! This is going back about 50 years ago that it happened, Lodge business was very hush, hush then.
One thing he did tell me not so long ago, was that it was business orientated, that you helped each other out as much as possible, trades, contracts etc. He showed me for the first time the inside of that same briefcase he used all those years. All it held was his apron and a bible of sorts and yellowed newsletters. I did not look right thru it out of respect but it was not a regular bible . He was a "quiet" Christian, by the way. Even though his death was sudden (he was living with me), I believe he knew he was going and so showed me his Mason belongings as he knew it had always fascinated me.
He also said he could tell by the way he shook a strangers hand whether he was a Mason. I think when they are a certain generation, they are on the look out when meeting new people. It must have given him a buzz. When I visited him in hospital once, he gave a funny smile, inclined his head across the room, and whispered "Mason." When I whispered back, "how do you know", he said, "handshake, and smiled again. God I miss him....
on 05-01-2013 10:34 PM
your story made my eyes leak a bit wicks
(in a good way)
I could feel your love for your grandfather in your post.
on 05-01-2013 10:39 PM
Thanks Crikey, I adored him and miss him every day. He was my best mate as well.