on 12-09-2014 04:30 PM
As the terror alert has gone up a seperat thread is in order.
Tony Abbott announces Australian terror threat raised from ‘medium’ to ‘high’
Australia's terror threat level has been raised from medium to high, meaning a terror attack on home soil is now officially considered "likely".
The nation's outgoing spy chief ASIO Director General David Irvine says an attack could manifest itself in a "Bali-style attack, although Prime Minister Tony Abbott said on Friday that the agencies had not detected any "particular plots".
Mr Abbott expressed confidence that the authorities are "smarter than terrorists and would be terrorists," and would remain "one step ahead" of their malice.
Mr Abbott made the much anticipated announcement at a media conference with the Attorney-General George Brandis and Mr Irvine four days after the ASIO chief flagged the escalation.
Mr Abbott stressed that raising the terror threat level did not mean a terror attack was "imminent" but said it meant there are people in Australia with the "intent and capability" to carry out at terror attack.
He said it would "not make any difference to daily life" for the vast majority of Australians but it would mean "more security" at airports, ports, military bases, public buildings and large public events, including the upcoming AFL Grand Finals. But he said football fans should not be deterred from attending the games
Normal life in Australia can and must go on," he said. "We want people to go about their normal lives and we certainly want to people to enjoy the football if their teams are lucky enough to be in the grand final," he said.
Acting Australian Federal Police Commissioner Andrew Colvin said sports fans "fortunate enough" to have tickets to the grand final should still attend as police have "well worked" plans for securing major matches.
PM Tony Abbott watches as ASIO chief David Irvine explains the increase in terror threat level. Photo: Luis Ascui
"You may expect to see heightened police presence but it won't be intrusive, I'm sure," he said.
Mr Abbott also said a "modest information campaign" would begin within weeks.
Mr Irvine said the events in the Middle East over recent months had activated people at home who support the extremism propagated by ISIL militants in Iraq and Syria.
He said 60 to 70 Australians were among the 10,000 foreign fighters fighting alongside the terrorists in Iraq and Syria and some had returned home.
on 12-09-2014 04:43 PM
on 12-09-2014 05:27 PM
A line from Joni Mitchell's "Fiddle and the Drum". The song was written in 1969, yet it is still relevant,
"We have all come, to fear the beating of your drum"
on 12-09-2014 06:25 PM
I for one wont be surprised when it happens here, it was only ever a matter of time.
on 12-09-2014 06:36 PM
@the_hawk* wrote:I for one wont be surprised when it happens here, it was only ever a matter of time.
it would be naive to think australia is somehow immune.
we've had at least 4 mass casualty attack plots with over
20 people convicted.
on 12-09-2014 06:43 PM
"Naturally the common people don't want war: Neither in Russia, nor in England, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, IT IS THE LEADERS of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is TELL THEM THEY ARE BEING ATTACKED, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. IT WORKS THE SAME IN ANY COUNTRY."
--Goering at the Nuremberg Trials
Beware the leader who bangs the drums of war in order to whip the citizenry into a patriotic fervour, for patriotism is indeed a double-edged sword. It both emboldens the blood, just as it narrows the mind.
And when the drums of war have reached a fever pitch and the blood boils with hate and the mind has closed, the leader will have no need in seizing the rights of the citizenry. Rather, the citizenry, infused with fear and blinded by patriotism, will offer up all of their rights unto the leader and gladly so.
How do I know? For this is what I have done. And I am Caesar.
(Shakespeare’s Julius Caesar.)
on 12-09-2014 06:53 PM
Fearmongering at its worst to coincide with the anniversary of the 9/11 attacks. According to Abbott, he has no specific intelligence that a terrorist attack is imminent, only that there are people who are capable of committing terrorist attacks on Australia.
on 12-09-2014 06:56 PM
yes exactly Blue,
likely but not imminent
glad I'm not going to the MCG tonight. the extra security is wreaking a bit of havoc with the crowds apparently
on 12-09-2014 07:05 PM
@bluecat*dancing wrote:Fearmongering at its worst to coincide with the anniversary of the 9/11 attacks. According to Abbott, he has no specific intelligence that a terrorist attack is imminent, only that there are people who are capable of committing terrorist attacks on Australia.
well yeah, thats what high level means - attack likely - not imminent.
we're not at extreme level. http://www.nationalsecurity.gov.au/Securityandyourcommunity/Pages/NationalTerrorismPublicAlertSystem...
on 12-09-2014 07:08 PM
medium level = terrorist attack could occur