on 01-09-2014 05:27 PM
Halal Choices..... are you concerned with the halal slaughter of animals such as beef, lamb and poultry.
To be halal certified the animal must be facing Mecca, have its throat cut while still alive and then ritually sacrificed by a Muslim who recites a prayer dedicating the slaughter to Allah.
Because the animals must be slaughtered alive, stun guns are often not an option as they can kill an animal before the heart pumps out all the blood.
http://www.halalchoices.com.au/index.html
Do you read the lables to see whats HALAL or not HALAL Do you purchase HALAL products or not?
Thoughts on the slaughter of animals for HALAL
http://www.halalchoices.com.au/what_is_halal.html
Products That Are Halal Certified
http://www.halalchoices.com.au/product_lists_halal.html
http://www.halalchoices.com.au/product_lists.html
Products That Are Not Halal Certified
http://www.halalchoices.com.au/product_lists_nonhalal.html
Interesting youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=mSP47FAtn6U
The presenter is Kirralie Smith, an average Aussie housewife, who does the weekly grocery shopping.
Ms Smith became aware, then alarmed, about the Islamic halal certification on so many of her shopping list items. She looked for a list of halal certified foods so she could make informed choices about what to buy and what to avoid.
There was no such list, yet so many supermarket products were stamped 'halal certified'.
Ms Smith started to do her own investigation, calling supermarket chains, grocery producers - even the halal certifiers - all so she could be better informed when she went to do her shopping.
She has personally contacted over 500 companies to determine their halal certification status.
What she discovered was bigger than big.
Kirralie Smith is the founder and director of HalalChoices. Kirralie holds a BA in Theology and lives with her family in coastal New South Wales. What started as an attempt to put together a shopping list for her family led to two years of research into halal certification schemes in Australia; as well as our most comprehensive resource concerning these tax-like schemes now imposed on the majority of our food products.
on 02-09-2014 10:28 AM
I dont agree with it either Mrgrizz ,but I'm pleased to hear it's heavilty regulated here, the animals here are probably much better off than the ones sent OS
on 02-09-2014 10:31 AM
@*julia*2010 wrote:
@nero_wulf wrote:From Dick Smith Food
http://www.dicksmithfoods.com.au/media/news/muslim-branding-our-food
Muslim Branding on Our Food
We have received a number of letters from people asking if we will be putting the Muslim Halal logo on our food.
To acquire Halal certification, payment is required to the endorsing body and involves a number of site inspections of both our growers and processors in order to ensure that our practices comply with the conditions of Halal certification. It is important to note that this does not reflect the quality of the food being processed or sold – it only means that the products are approved as being prepared in accordance with the traditions of the Muslim faith.
We are aware of an increasing number of large companies both in Australia and overseas, such as Kraft and Cadbury, who have obtained accreditation to use the Halal logo. We don’t believe they have done this because of any religious commitment but rather for purely commercial reasons. Perhaps these large organisations can afford to do this. While we have a choice however, we would prefer to avoid unnecessarily increasing the cost of our products in order to pay for Halal accreditation when this money would be better spent continuing to support important charitable causes where assistance is greatly needed.
We point out that we have never been asked to put a Christian symbol (or any other religious symbol) on our food requiring that we send money to a Christian organisation for the right to do so.
how much does the accreditation cost?
seems a lot of money - if it is true:
on 02-09-2014 10:31 AM
I’ve been watching this thread and having a private chuckle, but, ”We point out that we have never been asked to put a Christian symbol (or any other religious symbol) on our food requiring that we send money to a Christian organisation for the right to do so”., has wrenched me out of my lethargy, as it demonstrates the true motive behind this thread. Religious intolerance.
This religion, as with a lot of other religions have laws governing food. Christianity has no such laws. So the comment, “that we have never been asked to put a Christian symbol” is irrelevant for food labelling purposes.
on 02-09-2014 10:36 AM
i have never been involved with ritual slaughter, only know what i have been told by government inspectors.
ritual halal slaughter needs for the animal to be concesse(sp) when the arteries are cut. the animal is then stunned with in seconds to become painless
on 02-09-2014 10:37 AM
@tall_bearded01 wrote:I’ve been watching this thread and having a private chuckle, but, ”We point out that we have never been asked to put a Christian symbol (or any other religious symbol) on our food requiring that we send money to a Christian organisation for the right to do so”., has wrenched me out of my lethargy, as it demonstrates the true motive behind this thread. Religious intolerance.
This religion, as with a lot of other religions have laws governing food. Christianity has no such laws. So the comment, “that we have never been asked to put a Christian symbol” is irrelevant for food labelling purposes.
and as we live in a predominantly Christian country whey should the majority have to pay extra to accommodate a minority group for any reason, I am sure they know that Australia wasn't a Muslim country before coming here.
I for one object to being extorted by inflated prices.
on 02-09-2014 10:37 AM
if you're going to go down that road, the same applies to "Kosher"food. there are a few articles on the net, mainly from the US
http://www.deism.com/kosher.htm
so you can't single out one religion
on 02-09-2014 10:40 AM
Fair enough Tall bearded I can understand exactly where you are coming from.
But our laws when it comes to animal slaughter state that the animal must be stunned first, and we are not a Muslim country so why should the average Australian consumer have to pay extra for the products that carry the Halal certification?
on 02-09-2014 10:41 AM
I don't agree with either btw
02-09-2014 10:41 AM - edited 02-09-2014 10:43 AM
@nero_wulf wrote:
@daydream**believer wrote:My kids last school sports day had a sausage sizzle.
All the sausages were Halal.
There were quite a few not impressed that that was the only option.
Now they are having another sausage sizzle this friday. Halal chick sausages and non halal beef ones
Bet the non halal beef ones sell the best if the people are informed and given the choice....
Yes, the order has it clearly labelled.
I believe the reason the are offering the non halal ones is because sales of the halal sausages on sports day were quite low. Plus a few parents wrote complaints that non halal ones wernt offered.
on 02-09-2014 10:43 AM