on 01-09-2014 05:27 PM
Halal Choices..... are you concerned with the halal slaughter of animals such as beef, lamb and poultry.
To be halal certified the animal must be facing Mecca, have its throat cut while still alive and then ritually sacrificed by a Muslim who recites a prayer dedicating the slaughter to Allah.
Because the animals must be slaughtered alive, stun guns are often not an option as they can kill an animal before the heart pumps out all the blood.
http://www.halalchoices.com.au/index.html
Do you read the lables to see whats HALAL or not HALAL Do you purchase HALAL products or not?
Thoughts on the slaughter of animals for HALAL
http://www.halalchoices.com.au/what_is_halal.html
Products That Are Halal Certified
http://www.halalchoices.com.au/product_lists_halal.html
http://www.halalchoices.com.au/product_lists.html
Products That Are Not Halal Certified
http://www.halalchoices.com.au/product_lists_nonhalal.html
Interesting youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=mSP47FAtn6U
The presenter is Kirralie Smith, an average Aussie housewife, who does the weekly grocery shopping.
Ms Smith became aware, then alarmed, about the Islamic halal certification on so many of her shopping list items. She looked for a list of halal certified foods so she could make informed choices about what to buy and what to avoid.
There was no such list, yet so many supermarket products were stamped 'halal certified'.
Ms Smith started to do her own investigation, calling supermarket chains, grocery producers - even the halal certifiers - all so she could be better informed when she went to do her shopping.
She has personally contacted over 500 companies to determine their halal certification status.
What she discovered was bigger than big.
Kirralie Smith is the founder and director of HalalChoices. Kirralie holds a BA in Theology and lives with her family in coastal New South Wales. What started as an attempt to put together a shopping list for her family led to two years of research into halal certification schemes in Australia; as well as our most comprehensive resource concerning these tax-like schemes now imposed on the majority of our food products.
on 02-09-2014 01:53 PM
exactly my point and I don't believe for one second that a lot of the complaints have anything to do with cost, just more Islamaphobia. Good luck to those who will no longer be buying Halal food, let us all know how that goes.....
Is there any rice that is Haram? Could be a little niche market there - rice grown in alcohol or maybe animal blood...mmmmm.
on 02-09-2014 02:05 PM
Whatever, I will not contribute to mass murder or cruelty to animals, ever.
on 02-09-2014 02:16 PM
I don't believe for one second that a lot of the complaints have anything to do with cost
i see so that's where the confusion came from and
you posting the mostly irrelevant food list lol
what i see on this thread are comments with specific
reasons as to why some oppose payments for the accreditation and ritual slaughter.
no one suggested they would boycott all food that Muslims consider permissible
on 02-09-2014 03:10 PM
I really don't get why anyone thinks stunning an animal to kill it is less painful than bleeding to death.
Having lived on a farm most of my life and having been both a producer of beef and pork for the meat market, I have seen first hand, abattoir practices and farm kills.
on 02-09-2014 03:18 PM
@lightningdance wrote:I dont buy halal because of the billions of dollars it extorts goes to aid isal(sic) and el queada (sic) and other terrorists group's(sic).
al qaeda is a database produced by the CIA.
on 02-09-2014 03:27 PM
@*julia*2010 wrote:I don't believe for one second that a lot of the complaints have anything to do with cost
i see so that's where the confusion came from and
you posting the mostly irrelevant food list lol
what i see on this thread are comments with specific
reasons as to why some oppose payments for the accreditation and ritual slaughter.
no one suggested they would boycott all food that Muslims consider permissible
and yet where is the proof of these terribly inflated costs, not the dubious anti Islam links already provided. If it is purely about cost then why not mention boycotting organic, heart smart, low fat, free range....all these practices mean higher cost to the consumer, why is the food listed irrelevent - it is Halal, that is relevant - thread heading.. Halal Choices.
on 02-09-2014 03:32 PM
From a Jewish perspective ----and this is just in regard to non-meat products ie not getting into the abatoir situation---
The Kosher Authority are interested in giving accrediation to factories and specific products in order for Jews to know what can and can't be eaten by us
There are 2 levels:
1) The Kosher Authority would like to approve a product or set of products and asks the factory to allow our certifiers in, in order to see the ingredients and process. In this case, the factory is not charged anything at all, whether or not the product is certified in the end.
2) Sometimes a businnes/factory/compay will approach the Kosher Authority and ask for certification.- it obviously helps their business case. In this case, the entity is charged a fee
Any money made from this second scenario pays for the running of the Kosher Authority itself as well as the supervisors wages. None of this is paid towards synagogues or other entities.
on 02-09-2014 03:41 PM
and yet where is the proof of these terribly inflated costs, not the dubious anti Islam links already provided.
no, unless you consider the australian
food magazine to be anti islam
maybe $27K per month is not considered a lot by some ???
on 02-09-2014 03:55 PM
@lightningdance wrote:Whatever, I will not contribute to mass murder or cruelty to animals, ever.
Don't you realise that there is a plenty of cruelty to farm animals in Australia. The way they are kept, especially pigs, and transported and handled in the feed lots, and then in abattoirs. People do not work in slaughterhouse because they love animals. And poor chickens for meat are selectively bred to be so big that by the age of 6 weeks that their bones cannot carry them, and then are killed.
on 02-09-2014 04:13 PM
@*julia*2010 wrote:and yet where is the proof of these terribly inflated costs, not the dubious anti Islam links already provided.
no, unless you consider the australian
food magazine to be anti islam
maybe $27K per month is not considered a lot by some ???
the Halal meat which according to the magazine you cited is for export, so exactly what costs for Aussie consumers?
thanks for that great site, also a very interesting article about an Aussie company....great news, maybe some jobs there for Australia...
An Australian developer and manufacturer of sustainable plastics and packaging has received Halal certification for a new range of resins.
Cardia Managing Director Dr Frank Glatz said the certification, announced today on the Australian Stock Exchange (ASX), is a “commercial milestone” for the company.
“It significantly increases our ability to drive sales as we are able to appeal to a further 1.6 billion potential customers,” he said.
http://www.foodmag.com.au/news/packaging-receives-halal-certification