on 01-09-2014 05:27 PM
Halal Choices..... are you concerned with the halal slaughter of animals such as beef, lamb and poultry.
To be halal certified the animal must be facing Mecca, have its throat cut while still alive and then ritually sacrificed by a Muslim who recites a prayer dedicating the slaughter to Allah.
Because the animals must be slaughtered alive, stun guns are often not an option as they can kill an animal before the heart pumps out all the blood.
http://www.halalchoices.com.au/index.html
Do you read the lables to see whats HALAL or not HALAL Do you purchase HALAL products or not?
Thoughts on the slaughter of animals for HALAL
http://www.halalchoices.com.au/what_is_halal.html
Products That Are Halal Certified
http://www.halalchoices.com.au/product_lists_halal.html
http://www.halalchoices.com.au/product_lists.html
Products That Are Not Halal Certified
http://www.halalchoices.com.au/product_lists_nonhalal.html
Interesting youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=mSP47FAtn6U
The presenter is Kirralie Smith, an average Aussie housewife, who does the weekly grocery shopping.
Ms Smith became aware, then alarmed, about the Islamic halal certification on so many of her shopping list items. She looked for a list of halal certified foods so she could make informed choices about what to buy and what to avoid.
There was no such list, yet so many supermarket products were stamped 'halal certified'.
Ms Smith started to do her own investigation, calling supermarket chains, grocery producers - even the halal certifiers - all so she could be better informed when she went to do her shopping.
She has personally contacted over 500 companies to determine their halal certification status.
What she discovered was bigger than big.
Kirralie Smith is the founder and director of HalalChoices. Kirralie holds a BA in Theology and lives with her family in coastal New South Wales. What started as an attempt to put together a shopping list for her family led to two years of research into halal certification schemes in Australia; as well as our most comprehensive resource concerning these tax-like schemes now imposed on the majority of our food products.
on 02-09-2014 11:08 AM
@tall_bearded01 wrote:Halal certification has nothing to do with terrorism, that is, unless you hold the view, like some here, that Muslims = Terrorist.
Halal is simply a means by which those who practice that faith can make sure the foods they buy (and eat) complies with the requirement of their faith.
Now we have something like 100 million or so Muslims to our immediate north. So, I for one will not criticise any Australian Company which decides to have its food products certified Halal, so it can sell in a market which is 20 time or bigger than the local one. I would have thought this was just plain good business
As for animal cruelty, we have laws governing same, and religious law, all religious laws are subservient to it. Therefore if someone is attempting to introduce slaughter practices which breach those laws the answer is simple – close down the business and prosecute the owners.
where i work we need halal certification to export to USA, Japan amongst other places
on 02-09-2014 11:10 AM
LOL well derrrrr
The point is the chicken halal is 50c more than the beef, yet chicken, as a rule, is alot cheaper than beef.
on 02-09-2014 11:12 AM
Halal is simply a means by which those who practice that faith can make sure the foods they buy (and eat) complies with the requirement of their faith.
did you read the link debra posted
in post 56? what do you think?
on 02-09-2014 11:14 AM
on a whole it is. but i have never seen a chicken snag cheeper than a beef one.
beef produces lots of trimmings, where as a chicken doesn't. needing to use a higher quality of meat to make chicken snags. most likely thigh and leg meat
That is a good point Mr Grizz, I tend to agree with you on that one 🙂
I stand corrected...
on 02-09-2014 11:16 AM
I will make it my mission in life never to by halal. I will not be a party to financing terrorism no matter how small it is.
on 02-09-2014 11:16 AM
on 02-09-2014 11:16 AM
@secondhand-wonderland wrote:LOL well derrrrr
The point is the chicken halal is 50c more than the beef, yet chicken, as a rule, is alot cheaper than beef.
see just up there^^^^^^^
a 250kg body of beef might produce 50 kg trimmings used for mince and snags.
chicken produces almost no trimmings, so premium cuts are needed to be used to make the snag.
the price difference is not due to halal
on 02-09-2014 11:18 AM
@debra9275 wrote:who am I supposed to be supporting?. I am saying it is not specific to one religion
why do you only complain about one? MrGrizz knows more than me, but I think Halal and kosher are very similar
Halal and kosher are not similar.
Halal funds go to terrorism, kosher funds go to Jewish churches.
on 02-09-2014 11:20 AM
What are you trying to say?
I'm asking tallbearded what he thought about that article
if that is ok
on 02-09-2014 11:20 AM
Halal certification has nothing to do with terrorism, that is, unless you hold the view, like some here, that Muslims = Terrorist.
I think you have really summed up what's going on here TB
personally I'm in total disagreement for what I see as the inhumane slaughter of animals in the name of religion. For me, it's a difficult thing to make any sense of, but it's one of those things that we have to live with, much as i actiively support banning live animal export