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icyfroth · ‎26-01-2021

All very low-key this year, and who knows if it will be celebrated at all in the years ahead, the way efforts are being ramped up to bring it down.

Still, it's a typical blazing hot blue sky like nowhere else in the world, the crickets are chirping and someone even had their mowers going this morning.

The radio is playing traditionally Aussie songs, like "True Blue" by John Williamson, and "I still call Australia Home" , by Peter Allan. "I Come From a Land Down Under", by Men at Work.

My favourite has always been "I am Australian", by the Seekers.

debra9275 · ‎29-01-2021

a lot really.. because the Proud Boys were celebrating Australia Day in a very unAustralian way

also a proud boy tried to disrupt an anti invasion march in Melb.. where they were all doing the right think by law... wearing masks and keeping in small groups

that's 'cancel culture? isn't it??

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-26/australia-day-melbourne-invasion-day-protest-rally/13092528

this country belongs to us all.. indigenous or not

though I'm a proud Australian and i love my country. Australia Day doesn't actually mean a lot to me. apart from barbeques and holidays

the_great_she_elephant · ‎29-01-2021

@icyfroth wrote:
@the_great_she_elephant wrote:
Because the neoNazis were waving banners, chanting slogans and proclaiming their agenda to the world.
Oh Really.

And what has that to do with this discussion about Australia Day?

And what makes you think the cancel culture ppl or BLM mob, or GetUp crowd or whatever left-wing or "woke" group currently outraged, are entitled to wave banners and march in protest against Australia Day, a perfectly legitimate and time-honoured tradition, march against Covid restrictions, that's all ok, but a handful of ppl in a remote mountains are somehow a danger to Australain society?

Next thing on the outrage agenda will be ANZAC day again, I bet.

Whch brings us back to my orignal question; what banners were these people waving tthat would support your theory that they were only 'piggybacking' on the Aboriginal cause rather than supporting it?

lyhargr_0 · ‎29-01-2021

@the_great_she_elephant wrote:
You're right of course, they weren't breaking the law. As for whether or not it is hard to ignore them, well, I can only speak for myself - and as I spent the first 3 years of my life sleeping in air raid shelters and my dad spent those same 3 years in a Nazi POW camp, perhaps I'm more sensitive than most.

All the more reason to not give people like this any attention at all ..............

icyfroth · ‎29-01-2021

@ TGSE

What is you fixation on banners?

the_great_she_elephant · ‎29-01-2021

It's not a question of fixation but of requesting evidence.

Banners and slogans are the means by which protesters convey their agenda. For example:

A group of activists waving hammer and sickle banners and chanting "The workers, united will never be defeated" would quite clearly be demonstrating a marxist/anti capitalist agenda.

A group waving swastika banners and chanting "White Power" and "Ku LKlux Klan" obviously has a neoNazi/White Suprmecist aagenda

A group marchng on Australia Day carrying banners proclaiming "Invasion Day" and chanting "Always was, always will be, Aboriginal Land,' quite cearly has an agenda to demand a change the date for Astralia Day.

You have stated that a crowd of activists hijacked the Invasion Day Protests to pursue their own unrelated agenda. So I have asked you several times, and am now asking again, What was that agenda and what banners or slogans did they wave/chant that led you to believe they were not marching to show solidarity with the Aboriginal cause?

imastawka · ‎29-01-2021

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the_great_she_elephant · ‎29-01-2021

icyfroth · ‎29-01-2021

@the_great_she_elephant wrote:
It's not a question of fixation but of requesting evidence.

Banners and slogans are the means by which protesters convey their agenda. For example:
A group of activists waving hammer and sickle banners and chanting "The workers, united will never be defeated" would quite clearly be demonstrating a marxist/anti capitalist agenda.
A group waving swastika banners and chanting "White Power" and "Ku LKlux Klan" obviously has a neoNazi/White Suprmecist aagenda
A group marchng on Australia Day carrying banners proclaiming "Invasion Day" and chanting "Always was, always will be, Aboriginal Land,' quite cearly has an agenda to demand a change the date for Astralia Day.

You have stated that a crowd of activists hijacked the Invasion Day Protests to pursue their own unrelated agenda. So I have asked you several times, and am now asking again, What was that agenda and what banners or slogans did they wave/chant that led you to believe they were not marching to show solidarity with the Aboriginal cause?

Oh I see, lol.

You think they're going to plaster their hidden agenda on banners.

the_great_she_elephant · ‎29-01-2021

icyfroth wrote: You think they're going to plaster their hidden agenda on banners.

So if their agenda is hidden, how does marching in an Invasion Day protest help them to advance it? How would people watchng the march be made aware that some of the marchers were not really supporting it at all, but promoting a hidden agenda that had nothig to do woth the protest? And if they weren't aware, then what on earth was the point of the exercise?