@the_great_she_elephant wrote:
@rabbitearbandicoot wrote:
@*julia*2010 wrote:so you believe all that and mock someone
who believes that mary is the mother of god ???
can you not see the irony?
I suppose you believe the alternative?
In the beginning there was NOTHING - no God, no air, no gas, no solids, no water, no space - and then there was a BIG BANG and everything came magically into existence. Billions of galaxies, each containing billions of stars and then, in one tiny corner of one of those galaxies, with a Sun just the right distance away and a moon - just the right distance away - a planet called earth - for no reason at all, with no planning behind it, suddenly millions of species of life came about, and then one of these species evolved into intelligent mankind.
Can't you see the irony in that?
If you are going to argue against evolution, Rabbit, at least undersatnd wht it is you are arguing against.The Universe did not suddenly come into existence whole and complete with everything in place as we no it today straight after the big bang. It evolved over billions of years Millions of species did not suddenly come about either - they also evolved over billions of years.
And if it seems reasonable to you that some spirit being could have "magically" produced all these things out of nothing. then why is it unreasonable to assume it could not equally well have happened without the involvement of any spirit being?
The universe and everything in it is the way it is simply because it is the only possible end result of a series of random occurrences. Had one of those occurrences not happend or happened differently then the Universe would be something different.
How many coincidences did it take for you to come into existence? If only one pair of your ancestors thousands of years ago had decided to do the business half an hour later than they did you would not be here at all. Or do you believe there is no such thing as free will and God not only manipulated every meeting and every coupling of every single one of your ancestors but also rode shotgun on every sperm produced by every one of your male antecedents just to ensure the right one fertilised the right ovum on each right occasion to produce you?
It still came out of NOTHING, without any planning, any guidance, any intervention by any intelligence.
NOTHING > BIG BANG! AND WHAT CAUSED THE BIG BANG IN AMONGST ALL THIS NOTHING.
And Yes, you are correct - had any one of the mllions of meetings and coupling been different then I would be a different person. If Bill Gates's parenting had been different we may not be sitting here talking at all. But, what does that prove?
