High profile crimes

[chuk_77]

This is not a discussion of the locked thread as much as what makes one case a higer profile than another.

The Jill Meagher case was talked about here 

So was Keishas murder even before it became a murder

And there have been more, so I do wonder why the other mention no names one was locked? 

Anyone able to shed light on it without discussing a locked thread?

[cherry*135]

"All jurisdictions in Australia with the exception of Victoria, Tasmania and the Northern Territory provide for criminal trials by judge alone. These provisions have been used in cases where defendants think that saturation adverse media coverage will make it impossible for them to get a fair trial before a jury.

Simon Gittany was found guilty by New South Wales Supreme Court judge Lucy McCallum of the murder of his fiancée. This was a judge alone trial. As was the trial of Perth barrister Lloyd Rayney, who was acquitted by Justice Brian Martin in the Western Australian Supreme Court earlier this year of the murder of his wife."

[chuk_77]

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@azureline** wrote:

Oh Chuk! now there will be posts about publishing.......................

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oops, sorry 

[cherry*135]

June 2012

Court overturns ban on Ibrahim web articles

In March, a District Court judge, James Bennett, had ordered that all articles containing references to ''any other criminal proceedings'' or ''unlawful conduct'' involving the three men be taken down from the internet, to address the possibility of members of the jury going online and finding reports that might affect their views of the accused.

But the appeal judges yesterday agreed with the argument of the media companies - including Fairfax Digital, publisher of the Herald - that such an order was futile because vast swathes of information on the internet are essentially beyond the court's control.

Those responsible for information about the Ibrahim brothers and Mr Atkinson appearing on the web include content providers and search engine operators throughout the world.

The appeal panel also found that broad suppression orders that were ''addressed to the world at large'' were invalid because website hosts based overseas might be unaware they were publishing material that had been suppressed.

''What they found is that you can't require a content host to monitor all material of a certain description and take down any content that fits that description,'' Emeritus Professor Michael Chesterman from the University of NSW said.

''An internet host sits there and gets material from all sorts of external suppliers. This judgment acknowledges that its virtually impossible to monitor all of that.''

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/court-overturns-ban-on-ibrahim-web-articles-20120613-20alr.html#ixzz32yGL1...

[azureline**]

The jury I was on was not high profile but we were instructed that we were not to access the internet while the trial was on, no searching for info on a similar crime, no seeking info on anyone involved, accused defendant or witnesses.

Not to discuss with family or friends or post on forums or social media.

I didn't and I am fairly sure none of the others did either, it was said in a way that made us feel they were monitoring us.

[cherry*135]

Baden-Clay trial - 10 June

**This is a bit different? It would cut out quite a few potential jurors, I would think.

Prospective jurors in Baden-Clay trial to face questions on potential bias

A pre-trial hearing has been told potential jurors will be polled prior to their selection, facing questions from both prosecution and defence lawyers.

They will be asked whether they or their immediate family lived in the Brisbane suburbs of Anstead, Bellbowrie, Brookfield or Chapel Hill in 2012.

Lawyers will also ask each prospective juror whether he or she ever attended a fundraising event or contributed to any fund relating to Allison Baden-Clay's disappearance or death.

**Finally, each will be asked whether he or she has ever expressed a view on the guilt or innocence of Gerard Baden-Clay.

In all, 72 witnesses are expected to be called in a trial that is expected to last for a month.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-06-02/prospective-jurors-in-baden-clay-trial-to-face-questions-on-bi...

[azureline**]

I really wish I was on this jury!  I think it will be very interesting.

[cherry*135]

Would you pass that final clause?

Yes, it would be very interesting

[cherples]

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@am*3 wrote:

Baden-Clay trial - 10 June

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Baden-Clay shifts the blame to the women.

Alison caused the affairs. The mistress caused the affair not to stop.  The Poor Me label suits him.

[azureline**]

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@am*3 wrote:

Would you pass that final clause?

Yes, it would be very interesting

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yes I would................... I am on the fence with it................... I would need to know a lot more than I know now, before I could make a judgement on evidence.

However, it does depend on what comments or involvement you admit to, as to whether they allow you to stay on the jury, so much would be irrelevant?

I think it would be hard to find anyone in Brisbane who hadn't heard or read about this crime already.

I read a bit this morning about that Cherples, seems it's not his fault, poor man. Although, given his admissions of lying so convincingly to Ms McH, is his word of any value in his defence?

[polksaladallie]

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@cherples wrote:

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Baden-Clay shifts the blame to the women.

Alison caused the affairs. The mistress caused the affair not to stop.  The Poor Me label suits him.

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Yes, he has gone on and on about A's depression, her weight gain (by having HIS children), how he had to do a lot of housework because she was often in bed.  No intimacy (whatever happened to "for better or worse").   Seems to be painting a picture of potential suicide.