Historic cultural preservation, identity for all

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/expansion-of-twiggy-s-pilbara-mine-threatens-60-000-year-ol...

 

 

Is it not the time for Aboriginal cultural historic places and the significance thereof to be considered and valued as Australian Citizen's National Historic Assets - (of Aboringinal origins) ?

With this consideration all Australians can embrace as a people a well thought and respected composite of what we are as a nation.

With time and educated enlightenment there should  be less and less grounds for simmering ethnic angst

This may pave the way for those that identify or are Aboriginal to embrace Australian Citizen's National Historic Assets -( of the modern era), as a composite of what they are at this present time  - and so together both peoples can progress without latent distain or resentment 

Just a thought 

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I agree in that it is over due for some historic sites such as that one to be preserved. If people can be banned from cutting down a gum tree in their yard, then the government should absolutely be banning mining that could destroy or damage some of these ancient caves etc.

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@springyzone wrote:

I agree in that it is over due for some historic sites such as that one to be preserved. If people can be banned from cutting down a gum tree in their yard, then the government should absolutely be banning mining that could destroy or damage some of these ancient caves etc.


Totally agree - the problem is the Government is lobbied (read bribed) by the companies that stand to make heaps of money through the mining. 

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Very true wjhat you say! Sadly ambercat16 as you've indicated, this has been a problem right from the beginning of time. Money talks and bull**** walks. I believe in the past that there were some historical sites that have gone could have been saved by the public knowing in time. But besides the briber and the bribee  (bribed) there is the media. Often the media aids these unsavoury types.

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Rio Tinto apologises to traditional owners after blasting 46,000-year-old Aboriginal site

 

This article is more than 3 months old

Mining giant detonated explosives at Juukan Gorge in Western Australia, destroying two ancient rock shelters

 

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2020/may/31/rio-tinto-apologises-to-traditional-owners-after-bl...

 


Once it's gone, it's gone for good!

 


 

 
Leaked tape reveals Rio Tinto does not regret destroying 46,000-year-old Aboriginal rock shelter to expand mine

 

This article is more than 2 months old

Iron ore boss reportedly told a staff meeting that the company was apologising for the distress caused, not the destruction

 

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/jun/16/rio-tinto-repeats-apology-for-blasting-46000-...

 


Perhaps it was just .... "Let's do it and we'll deal with the consequences later".,

 

I don't know. Just saying!

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@4channel wrote:

 

Rio Tinto apologises to traditional owners after blasting 46,000-year-old Aboriginal site

 

This article is more than 3 months old

Mining giant detonated explosives at Juukan Gorge in Western Australia, destroying two ancient rock shelters

 

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2020/may/31/rio-tinto-apologises-to-traditional-owners-after-bl...

 


Once it's gone, it's gone for good!

 


 

 
Leaked tape reveals Rio Tinto does not regret destroying 46,000-year-old Aboriginal rock shelter to expand mine

 

This article is more than 2 months old

Iron ore boss reportedly told a staff meeting that the company was apologising for the distress caused, not the destruction

 

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/jun/16/rio-tinto-repeats-apology-for-blasting-46000-...

 


Perhaps it was just .... "Let's do it and we'll deal with the consequences later".,

 

I don't know. Just saying!


Should such natural structures of historic significance be declared national assets and protected as such , like modern heritage buildings ?

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These historic caves and sites of significance to indigenous Australia (Interest to others as well) should be protected like historical buildings. Due to bribery, corruption etc., many on both will still be at risk.

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@4channel wrote:

These historic caves and sites of significance to indigenous Australia (Interest to others as well) should be protected like historical buildings. Due to bribery, corruption etc., many on both will still be at risk.


Should significance to indigenous heritage people be also significance to all Australians in this day and age ? 

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It depends on what aspect of the significance is taken.  As indigenous artifacts are a part of Australian history and Indigenous Australians are the original inhabitants, certain things should be safeguarded. I believe all Australians should respect the heritage which is significant and historical to Indigenous Australians

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Your post implies that aboriginal heritage is not currently acknowledged or respected. While there can be improvements made to just about any area of social policy and aboriginal heritage is no different, I would suggest that there is an acute awareness and acknowledgement of aboriginal cultural history today. You only have to look at Uluru as a classic example. Its name has been changed from the European Ayers Rock to the aboriginal Uluru and now the only people climbing the rock are Aboriginal. Anyone else is banned.

 

Its a rock. It was there long before Aborigines set foot on Australian soil and it will be there long after the last humans disappear. Can anyone own a rock ? Anyway, the Aborigines claim to own it and the rest of us respect the decision as the democratic communal thought of our society decrees. I doubt that many people would disagree that a site of such splendor would not be significant to indigenous Australians in the same way it would be significant in the lives of any European / Australians who spent a lot of time in the area.

 

If we are going to avoid incidents such as the recent destruction of caves by miners there needs to be a complete and thorough recording of ALL sites of significance to indigenous Australians. If they want them protected, get them on a central register. If they are not on the register, don't come back complaining later when something bad happens. 

 

This will avoid the chaos caused by false claims of aboriginal significance as soon as minerals are found or the usual whingers want to stop a development and fabricate claims of Aboriginal significance.

 

If you want to see the worst of this, not only affecting non indigenous Australians, but also tearing aboriginal communities apart. take a look at the " Hindmarsh Island Bridge saga."  A royal commission found that a small group of Aboriginal woman encouraged by the usual suspects fabricated stories of the sites significance in order to stop a bridge being built. While a later High Court finding disagreed with the Royal Commisions findings, the High Court did not actually find any evidence to refute the findings of the royal commission that the claims where fabricated. The Royal commission on the other hand provided extensive evidence including individual people, places and time frames supporting its findings of fabrication.

 

Not only did the false claims delay the building of the bridge for many years, it cost us a fortune in court and legal fees and tore the local Ngarrindjeri tribe apart, as many Ngarrindjeri woman came out publicly to dispute the fabricated claims of the small group of indigenous woman.

 

It might not be popular to point out the bleeding obvious, but if we are to respect our indigenous history, Aboriginal people themselves must treat it with respect and not use it as a play thing for other purposes ( usually involving receiving royalty money ). It cuts both ways.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hindmarsh_Island_bridge_controversy#:~:text=The%20Hindmarsh%20Island%2...

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