How Anti-Vaxxers Sound to Normal People?

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Prior to the chicken pox (or varicella) vaccine being available, each year Australia had an estimated 240,000 chicken pox cases, with 1500 hospitalisations and between 1-16 deaths.

 

The results of the study, now published online in the Pediatric Infectious Disease Journal, show that there were no deaths identified in the participating hospitals in Australia during 2007-2010 following the widespread introduction of varicella vaccine.

 

The study also shows that of children needing hospitalisation for severe chicken pox, 80% had not been immunised.

 

 

 

https://www.adelaide.edu.au/news/news59963.html

 

 

 

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@secondhand-wonderland wrote:

  Once the disease was eradicated from the US in 1979, the only cases of polio were caused by the Sabin vaccine.

Oh, well that's OK then, US does not have it any more so no need to worry. Smiley Frustrated

Too bad about the epidemic in Africa and Pakistan. 

However, with so much international travel it is only matter of time before some of these terrible diseases make reappearance in one of those areas in the USA where vaccination levels are very low. 

 

I believe that there were handful of cases of kids who were given faulty vaccine who developed polio, but as far as I know none died and the worst affected walked with slight limp.  Has any of the kids who got this bad vaccine ended in iron lungs?  I do not think so.

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http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/happy-boy-should-still-be-with-us/story-e6freuy9-1226635253704

 

CHRIS Kokegei and his wife Wendy made sure their four children were always fully vaccinated.

But until their seven-year-old son Michael contracted chicken pox and died in 2009, they were unaware that a vaccine had been available since 2005.

"I didn't know chicken pox could kill and Michael would have been immunised if we had known," Mr Kokegei, a Terrigal teacher, said.

When Michael died, the Kokegeis had just paid $200 for all the children to have swine flu vaccine, after reading about a Health Department warning.

"No one mentioned varicella (the vaccine) or chicken pox," Mr Kokegei said, blaming the department for not alerting parents to its availability.

"Had I known (the vaccine existed), my son Michael would still be here."

Five to seven children a year died of chicken pox before the vaccine's introduction in 2005.

Since then, hospitalisations have reduced by 68 per cent and chicken pox deaths are now exceedingly rare, according to Professor Robert Booy of the National Centre for Immunisation Research and Surveillance at Westmead Hospital.

Michael was a happy, healthy boy on the last day of a family beach holiday on October 16, 2009.

He went for a walk to the video store with his family before bathtime, when Chris noticed a few red spots on his son's torso. Just 10 minutes later, Michael lapsed into unconsciousness.

"We did CPR for 20 minutes and then he was in a coma for three days before he died," Mr Kokegei said, adding there is no possibility of closure when a child dies of a vaccine-preventable disease.

"It shouldn't have happened."

 

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@secondhand-wonderland wrote:

@karliandjacko wrote:

@secondhand-wonderland wrote:

That was interesting she-ele, but using wikipieda to discredit an immunologists definition of immunization just doesn't really hold much weight.  

 

Posting children in iron lungs from half a century ago also doesn't hold much weight with me either sorry.  And it's one thing I would never do to further my agenda.  I could post any number of children that have been permanently damaged by vaccines but I'm not going to go there out of respect for the families that are suffering every day because of this damage.   It's not necessary in the discussion and it would only make me look inconsiderate and oppertunistic...

 

 


Are you too young to remember the devastation caused by polio?

 

How many kids at your school had polio? 


I'm more from the era where I can clearly see the devastation caused to some people by vaccines.

 

None. Although I do remember one older male teacher who had a slight limp because he had had polio as a child. 

 


Those who ended up in iron lungs were there for life; so unless you went to look for them, you would not know about them.  And some are still there: " Alexander has been in that iron lung for 61 years because he remains almost totally paralyzed, able to move only his head, neck and mouth. He is one of an estimated seven people in the United States who are still living in an iron lung, and yet he has had a long and successful career as a lawyer. "

 

http://consumer.healthday.com/infectious-disease-information-21/polio-news-539/the-man-in-the-iron-l...

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An Australian anti-vaccination group has pulled an image likening immunisation to rape after widespread outrage on social media, saying the image 'should not have been posted'.

 

http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/2015/04/23/anti-vax-group-pulls-facebook-image-comparing-vaccinat...

 

Charming people, those anti-vaxxers.


this disgusts me.

how dare they!!

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@***super_nova*** wrote:

@secondhand-wonderland wrote:

  Once the disease was eradicated from the US in 1979, the only cases of polio were caused by the Sabin vaccine.

Oh, well that's OK then, US does not have it any more so no need to worry. Smiley Frustrated

Too bad about the epidemic in Africa and Pakistan. 

However, with so much international travel it is only matter of time before some of these terrible diseases make reappearance in one of those areas in the USA where vaccination levels are very low. 

 

I believe that there were handful of cases of kids who were given faulty vaccine who developed polio, but as far as I know none died and the worst affected walked with slight limp.  Has any of the kids who got this bad vaccine ended in iron lungs?  I do not think so.


Of course though Super Nova, no one EVER dies from vaccine side effects.....

 

There have been no studies to date conducted on individual vaccine ingredients, the safety of injecting the FDA limit of aluminum for adults into an infant, or vaccine bundles. Nothing. Yet everyone is so sure that this new super invasive schedule is safe. Yet they have nothing to back up these claims...

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2588446/Harmless-No-chickenpox-killed-one-boys-left-strick...

 

'After Will died I wrote a piece for Pulse, the GP magazine, to raise awareness of how serious chickenpox can be and got inundated by people who had their own horror stories,' she says.

'Until then, I thought we had been really, really unlucky, and then I realised it wasn't just us.'

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1210300/Chickenpox-killed-son-How-little-boy-died-just-wee...

 

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/feb/23/german-health-official-mandatory-measles-vaccinations-c...

 

A senior German health official has called for mandatory measles vaccinations after an 18-month-old boy died of the disease amid the countryโ€™s worst outbreak in more than a decade.

 

 


http://www.ncirs.edu.au/immunisation/education/mmr-decision/measles.php

 

These are usually serious conditions and include ear infections, pneumonia, fits or convulsions, croup, inflammation of the brain (encephalitis), which could result in hospitalisation. A late complication of measles is subacute sclerosing panencephalitis (SSPE), which causes progressive brain damage and nearly always results in death.

The table below compares the potential problems caused by measles with the potential problems caused by the MMR vaccine.

Green - Common, usually mild symptoms that can be treated at home.

Yellow - Moderate complications that need medical attention but may not include hospitalisation.

Red - Serious complications that need urgent medical attention and could include hospitalisation.

Potential risks in a group of 100
children under 5 years of age
who get measles

Most children will have the common and usually mild (in green)symptoms of measles e.g. fever, cough, runny nose, red, painful eyes, rash. Some may have more than one of these symptoms at the same time.

 

Potential risks in a group of 100
children who have the MMR
vaccine

Most will have common and usually mild (in green) symptoms of the MMR vaccine e.g. pain or swelling at the injection site, joint pain and stiffness. Some may have more than one of these symptoms at the same time.

 

 
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  Once the disease was eradicated from the US in 1979, the only cases of polio were caused by the Sabin vaccine.

 

And what do you imagineis the reason for  that?

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In 1987 a new IPV was introduced.........OPV (Sabin) used live "attenuated" virus.

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TGSE--recall those polio days in the 1950s.

Everything shut down in Perth for weeks..maybe months-scarey times.

2 kids in the street i lived in got it.

Have vivid memories of one in some kind of calipers from the waist down

being helped taken for a ..walk.

 

Richo.

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