on 26-01-2015 04:33 PM
Following routine surgery on 9 Dec last yr, I lodged a claim at Medicare for my anaesthetist’s fees. Two weeks later, I checked my online account and noticed that the claim had been processed. It’s now nearly the end of Jan and I STILL haven’t received the chq for the anaesthetist.
Contrast that with the situation of the surgeon, where I paid his fees myself UPFRONT prior to the surgery. I then lodged a claim with Medicare and in less than one week, the refund (a LAUGHABLE 20% of the total) was in my bank account.
So why does Medicare takes forever to issue a chq to the anaesthetist, but refunds PAID DIRECTLY to the patient/claimant are credited in under a week?
And how CONVOLUTED is this system? If you DON’T pay your med professional upfront but rather, wait for Medicare and your pvt health insurer to stump up first; this is the logistical nightmare you’re faced with:
How much time and money is this costing everyone?
To be honest, I detest this scam of a health system of ours!
We pay “Medicare Levy” of 2% PLUS we pay huge pvt health insurance premiums (which are skyrocketing in leaps and bounds way above the rate of inflation) but (excluding hospitals) we STILL end up paying about 75% of our own med bills. And on top of that you now have to wait weeks for chqs to arrive, all the while being HARASSED by the doctors to pay their bills, which you can’t do anyway because you don’t know what your share is going to be!
Why can’t people like me just opt out of Medicare and negotiate a deal with a private health insurer to adequately cover all med bills?
on 28-01-2015 08:27 PM
No-one ever told me about a 2-way form, so for me it's always an unbelievably long, complicated and convoluted process to go thru to get a simple chq to the surgeon
and yes agreed, the health system in this country is a giant scam. The middle classes pay through the nose for their health care (and for everything else) while those who live on welfare get absolutely everything for free including all med treatments
I know someone who, through a lifetime of smoking, lost both his legs to gangrene. Had many diff ops to try and save his legs, But since he's lived on welfare for the past 6 or 7 yrs, he has never pd a cent for his med care and has spent prob 6 months in hospital
how we can ever get this country back on its feet financially when this is happening all the time?
the govt should get out of the health care system, except for providing v basic care for the destitute and those who simply cannot afford even basic pvt health. Whatever the govt touches, turns into a disaster
on 28-01-2015 09:29 PM
And what was your friend supposed to do? Rot to death with grangrene? He was on a pension and you don't want him to get healthcare?
I for one am VERY glad we have Medicare there for people like that ...and for us all. I gladly pay my taxes for health and hospital care for ALL.
Those people whinging about dealing with Medicare ...you would be paying a hell of lot more if you had a purely private system. In reality you are allowed two bites of the cherry because you chose to go the private route ...you stil get some Medicare, with the balance then shared between you and your insurer... the cream you have to pay because yo chose to go private, ahead of the queue.
I personally lay more blame at the private insurance company doors (yes I have private health insurance) they make sure they never lose out. "Health" insurance should be called "hospital" insurance because that is about all in your health care it covers.
Extras such as physio, glasses, dentistry are minor if you choose to go private for a major illness ...none of your tests, medications, doctor visits will be even touched by private insurance ...it is purely for Hospital cover and extras.
I got burnt big time when I had to have a $1400 scan ...Medicare covered about $600, the main part of the balance was only covered by insurance if I was admitted to hospital. Funny thing was I needed the scan to find out if I needed to go to hospital.
Two months later, over $10 000 in gap, medications, tests etc that were not covered by my private insurance ...I quickly learnt that I wouldn't be using my insurance for much.
on 28-01-2015 09:31 PM
on 29-01-2015 11:01 AM
on 29-01-2015 11:04 AM
on 29-01-2015 03:05 PM
I agree with the poster who said that private health insurance is a misnomer and should really be called "hospital insurance" because that's all its good for,
but EVEN THEN, they scam you
for my recent surgery, I paid an "excess" of $150. Last time I had surgery in 2010, the "excess" was only $100, so they managed to wangle a 50% increase in the "excess" before I even realised it
on 29-01-2015 03:10 PM
Would you rather have paid the $10,000, or $50,000. or whatever the surgery cost without your health fund?
$150 is a very small excess. You were lucky.
on 30-01-2015 05:05 PM
Hallelujah!!
Just thought I'd let you all know that the chq from Medicare finally arrived today - for the laughable amount of $225 out of a total fee of $1,185 i.e. 18.9% of the tot anaesthetist fee.
OK so, I now have to:
1. Fwd the chq to my anaesthetist
2. Wait for a revised bill from my anaesthetist
3. Fwd the revised bill PLUS another form to my private "health" i.e. hospital insurer
4. Wait for that chq to arrive
5. Fwd that chq to my anaesthetist and wait for revised bill no 2
6. Pay the balance myself
My expectation is that the private health rebate will be about ONE THIRD of the Medicare rebate or $75, meaning that of my tot anaesthetist bill of 1185, I myself will pay 885 or 74.7% of the total!!
So for this I must pay close to $4K p.a. for private health insurance PLUS 2% of my taxable income to the govt for a "Medicare Levy"
Imagine if you had a car insurance pol that paid you 25% of yr claim, so if you had an accident and the damage bill was $6K, you would get back the princely sum of $1,500, leaving you out of pocket 4.5K AND to top it all you had to pay for TWO insurance pols
Now to the surgeon's fee, which you'll recall as I mentioned in my opening post, I PAID UPFRONT.
I received my refund pretty quickly from Medicare (again about 20% of the tot) but can't proceed to claim my refund from my private health insurer until I get a RECEIPT or REMITTANCE from Medicare. BUT there's no sign of that! So that claim is now in limbo while I wait a few more weeks for Medicare to send me the paperwork, because of course, my pvt health insurer will NOT pay out until Medicare have done so first, and they have the paperwork to prove it
And again, its the same rigmarole. Forms to Medicare, refund from Medicare, more forms to pvt health insurer until eventually I get a refund from them and then of course a claim on yr tax return for a med expense rebate
It's becoming a FULL-TIME job dealing with these med claims and I've had plenty of them the last 6 months
Is there any more convoluted, complicated and downright UNFAIR health system anywhere??
on 30-01-2015 07:34 PM
Pay your bills first..... have your banking details registered with health insurer and medicare.
Show them receipts, and the money is in the bank the next day.
You are, or have chosen to make your life harder......that's your choice.
on 30-01-2015 07:44 PM
Change you health fund and use one that will use the Two Way system.
My fathers bills were sorted and paid in full within 3 weeks without us having to do any running around and we did not pay in full first up.