How do you un-brainwash someone that's been indoctrinated?

[the_bob_delusion]

How?

[raptor_rebooted]

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@poddster wrote:

Only if the indoctrinated subject is dumb

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i saw a program on abc recently.

there was a muslim cleric who was clearly

very intelligent.

no offence, but i dont think you would have any

chance making him one of your achievements  

[icyfroth]

 How do you un-brainwash someone that's been indoctrinated?

With a great deal of difficulty, I imagine.

[poddster]

That would be a nice challenge 🙂

[grandmoon]

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@the_bob_delusion wrote:

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@grandmoon wrote:

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@the_bob_delusion wrote:

How?

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Why would you want to ???

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Supposely they said Infidels and heathen are the enemies without any justifications except because the bible and koran says so.  Is that a good enough reason?

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No  it just your opinion   And have you been brainwashed against their beliefs  ?? 

[the_bob_delusion]

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@grandmoon wrote:

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@the_bob_delusion wrote:

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@grandmoon wrote:

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@the_bob_delusion wrote:

How?

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Why would you want to ???

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Supposely they said Infidels and heathen are the enemies without any justifications except because the bible and koran says so.  Is that a good enough reason?

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No  it just your opinion   And have you been brainwashed against their beliefs  ?? 

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Our beliefs govern our behavior. Do you agree with that? 

I actually evaluate their beliefs on their own merit. Therefore I accept some as reasonable, and some as unreasonable and some as bat **bleep** crazy. 

[raptor_rebooted]

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@poddster wrote:

That would be a nice challenge 🙂

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are you up for it?

i have provided you with two contacts:

http://www.griffith.edu.au/professional-page/mohamad-abdalla

http://apps.acu.edu.au/staffdirectory/index.php?frank-brennan

they are both very approachable 

let us know 

[bright.ton42]

Do you mean change their ways of thinking and believing to yours? Maybe they are right and you are wrong.

[icyfroth]

the Christians in Europe and England did it by killing off or exiling the ruling and the educated classes, and re-educating the children, that is, keeping them in ignorance and demonising their heritage, and totally re-indoctrinating them into Christianity. Under pain of death or torture for non-compliance. 

Even so, it took around 700 years for Europe to be completely Christianised.

It took us almost as long to shake it off .

Now wer'e threatened by yet another middle-eastern doctrine of religion.

[*pepe]

perhaps you need to take up a hobby - like reading for instance....

[poddster]

Julia, It can not be done over the internet, well it can but only for some, like the most gullible ones.

Regular eyeball to eyeball contact is the accepted method and depending on the subject perhaps a period of 2-3 years.

There has to be some positive return for the time and effort invested 🙂

The return in the case of the priest was payback for the biased education I got from attending a Catholic school for part of myschool years 🙂

He actually got married and had a family, That was a bonus