on 09-05-2013 07:38 PM
WTF.....happened to Australian Spirit?....
What do you think....are we roooooned? Does anyone have the same sense of 'existential dread', that I'm feeling lately for the future of Australia?........? Lib Labor..doesn't matter, they BOTH don't get it I reckon.
What do you think?
on 11-05-2013 09:36 PM
Played the Aboriginal card?...lmao...listen to you...and by the way it's ABORIGINES.
on 11-05-2013 09:40 PM
The world is now a global community, the borders and boundaries are diminishing.
Whilst Australia may be selling land that we are not prepared to use, Australians are also buying land in the international community.
Rural Aussies.
Google the Oaks Group. Google the Meat and Livestock Association. Same family 😉
on 11-05-2013 09:41 PM
Cue played the aboriginal card, to my knowledge, aboriginals used the land in a very different manner to how it has been used since the arrival of the First Fleet ie. the farming industry
that is being discussed in this thread.
I'm pretty sure that you don't really mean you want me to explain terra nullius to you and how in the instance of the British declaring the land unoccupied that it was a complete work of legal fiction, do you?
Please don't accuse people of playing the aboriginal card. It is demeaning.
Using the land in a different than Anglo style farming means nothing. The anglos were not great farmers for the first few years because they didn't know how to make food grow in Australia's climate.
Get down off you racial high horse.
No, you don't need to explain Terra Nullius was a fiction. The way it was written I couldn't tell if the fiction was Terra Nullius or the court case that upheld the concept.
on 11-05-2013 09:41 PM
BTW crikey is there no other thead you can have 'fun' on?......I don't think my idea of fun is necessarily yours.
on 11-05-2013 09:43 PM
My last comment was to Crikey....still stands....how much history do you acknowledge as legitimate in this country of 'ours'? 200 years or 40,000?...if not the latter, then you negate anything prior as illegitimate as far as objective anthropology goes
I was commenting only on our farming history. That which commenced with the First Fleet.
To the best of my knowledge, the land was used in a very different manner to that which you refer to by today's farming communities and "Rural Oz" before this.
on 11-05-2013 09:45 PM
The world is now a global community, the borders and boundaries are diminishing.
Whilst Australia may be selling land that we are not prepared to use, Australians are also buying land in the international community.
Rural Aussies.
Google the Oaks Group. Google the Meat and Livestock Association. Same family 😉
Australia's borders aren't diminishing, they're oceans.
on 11-05-2013 09:45 PM
Jawbs........plus its frickin cold down south.
Humans are ignorants beasts.
The best example is going to your local shopping center carpark.
Watch the people who park their car right on the line leaving twice as much room on the other side, then when they get out scratch the car next to them getting our or hit their door against the car next to them.
There is no train of thought the clicks in and says 'I would not like if somone did this to my car, I shouldn't do that to others'.
Same goes with just leaving your trolley next to someones car rather than walking it to the trolley bay.
The 'do us to others' line of thinking does not seem to enter many peoples brains as of late.
unless it is raining I park as far as I can from the shopping centre entrance......and in the middle of the bay.
and always return my trolley...........how lazy can you be??
I used spell check................heaps in the quote:^O
on 11-05-2013 09:52 PM
BTW crikey is there no other thead you can have 'fun' on?......I don't think my idea of fun is necessarily yours.
I thought we were having a discussion and exchanging different perspectives. I wasn't meaning to have fun, I am very aware that fun is now banned on CS, so I wouldn't dare try to have any of that.
I was participating in this exchange with you because you seem to be quite intelligent and well informed, a vast improvement from the contents of some other threads.
My knowledge of the NBN and subsequent contribution to that thread was as long as it's red, it'll go fast.
I know a bit about Australian economics and I know a bit about farming, so this thread seemed to be the better choice.
but I'll leave you to it now.
Cheers
on 11-05-2013 10:14 PM
well it wasn't me that brought it up, I defined the era to which I was referring, nothing else.
...so are you saying I should ignore my own heritage and not mention it in case it offends people like you and is seen as 'playing the Aboriginal card??....lmao...I'm VERY PROUD, I have 1/8th Aboriginal Background...I don't take advantage of it via any kind of BS concessions...as I said, it was my grandmothers struggle...I have another 7/8ths of other cultures LIKE IRISH CONVICT...lmao Bash that to shreds too...hey why not....
on 11-05-2013 10:18 PM
OMG...now I'm playing the convict card...:^O Excuuuuuuuse me...lol