ILLEGAL BOATS "WHAT HAPPENED TO FAIR PLAY?"

[nero_bolt]

An interesyting open letter written by a fed up Australian

ILLEGAL BOATS "WHAT HAPPENED TO FAIR PLAY?"  

The GREENS and ALP are part of the PROBLEM not the SOLUTION.

 The community is fed up with the antics of the ALP and Greens especially “cry me a river” Sarah Hanson Young.

The AUSTRALIAN PEOPLE don't need a minute by minute update of what occurs, WE WANT THE BOATS STOPPED. The only peeple that are demanding minute by minute information are the GREENS and the FAILED ALP supporters who created this problem in the first place

 That pathetic woman Sarah Hanson Young from the Greens and  the ALP are undertaking every possible means to undermine Australian sovereignty and encourage the influx of illegal boat arrivals dealing directly with criminals trading in human trafficking.

 Never have the Greens or ALP spoken out against those opportunistic parasites making a fortune from those seeking ILLEGAL entry to Australia.

 Blame every single DEATH at sea on the bloodied hands of Kevin Rudd, Julia Gillard, ALP and of course the disgraceful blind as a bat GREENS.

 Given the press conference by Scott Morrison this morning there is no doubt “cry me a river” Sarah Hanson Young of the Greens and  the ALP will hold a press conference and distort the facts solely to undermine the proven effective efforts of the Abbott Government.

 Their actions will only serve to AID the CRIMINALS organising the boats in what has become a lucrative business that makes the drug trade seem trivial.

 A few questions for “cry me a river” Sarah Hanson Young, the Greens and the ALP and the bleeding heart left leaning people

 1. Have the GREENS and the ALP and Left  ever pressed the Indonesian government to mutually respect Australian sovereignty as they demand we respect theirs?

 2. Given the Indonesian border represents less than 12% of our own border, how difficult is it for them to be pro active, detect & prevent the illegal departure of illegal boats headed for our borders?

 3. “cry me a river” Sarah Hanson Young  and the ALP in case you have not noticed these boats are not the size of a “tin dingy”, they are more than double the size of a BUS, how the hell are these boats departing Indonesia so frequently undetected?

 4. Why is Indonesia allowing them to depart in full knowledge they are intruding on our sovereignty yet demanding we respect their sovereignty?

 5. Will Indonesia allow Australian resources into their country to aid and detect these unseaworthy death traps “boats cramped with human lives” to prevent their departure thus abate the current situation and negate the pathetic one way discussion on Indonesian Sovereignty?

 6. If Indonesia is INCAPABLE of detecting and stopping these boats before they depart their ports and shores WHY WOULD THEY REFUSE Australian assistance to achieve that goal?

 7. Why is this perverted underhanded situation been supported by the GREENS, The ALP and UNIONS?

 ALP and GREENS are you aware that respect is a two way street?

 This will come as news to the GREENS and  the ALP and LEFT, "Respect is a mutual understanding set on a level playing field where by both parties agree on a mutual undertaking that protects the interests of both entities"

 There is no doubt the ISLAMIC REPUBLIC OF INDONESIA has no intention of respecting Australia, they demand respect yet do not reciprocate with equal mutual respect.

 The fact of the matter and core of the problem is “there are Indonesian officials, police, security officers” that are part of this hideous deadly business been supported by “cry me a river” Sarah Hanson Young, The GREENS and the ALP

 Put the shoe on the other foot and imagine the outcry from Indonesia if the situation was reversed and illegal's were departing our shores to settle in Indonesia!!!!

 We are fed up with the perversion, distortion and outright manipulation from the GREENS and the failed ALP

 The undisputed case is Indonesia for one reason or another is unable, incapable or unwilling to stop the departure of these boats and have no valid reason to object to Australian assistance to prevent the departures thereby nullifying the current situation.

 Our foreign AID to Indonesia must be conditional on them agreeing to Australian resources to detecting stopping these boats before they hit the high seas.

 The current situation is untenable and there is no doubt Australian Aerial surveillance and on the ground intelligence will dramatically if not totally stop these boats.

 Those on the boats must all be arrested, interrogated so the traffickers are arrested and the entire business shut down.

 Those arrested MUST then be placed in UN refugee camps where they can wait their turn like 99% of all other refugees and not given preferential treatment and allowed to queue jump at the expense of law abiding refugees.

 Sadly people like the ALP, GREENS and “cry me a river” Sarah Hanson Young are incapable of a fair and balanced approach where by the agree that all refugees are treated fairly and equally.

 These pathetic political parties would rather give preference to those that run the gauntlet, risk their own lives and those of their children and deal with criminals. This is the ALP, UNION, GREEN way of formulating policy.

 No matter how you dissect the situation the GREENS and ALP are part of the PROBLEM not the SOLUTION.

[freakiness]

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@topsidesoul wrote:

I do not remember people complaining about cost to tax payers when we gave Sri lanka (who are being investigated for war crimes after the British took them to the UN) naval boats .

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No, just like we don't hear many complain that off-shore detention and processing costs a lot more than on-shore detention and processing.

[topsidesoul]

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@freakiness wrote:

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@topsidesoul wrote:

I do not remember people complaining about cost to tax payers when we gave Sri lanka (who are being investigated for war crimes after the British took them to the UN) naval boats .

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No, just like we don't hear many complain that off-shore detention and processing costs a lot more than on-shore detention and processing.

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 Hard to do when acting like you care about ordinary Australians and foreign people's safety at sea.

[the_great_she_elephant]

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@***super_nova*** wrote:

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This is where I don't understand people's objection to operations such as Afghanistan. The aim was to provide a stable government, sure for our sake in the fight on terrorism etc, but also for the citizens.

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But military intervention rarely does that; especially in country so different from ours.  There is nothing stable about Iraq or Afghanistan.  Once our troops leave Afghanistan who knows what will happen there; we can brace ourselves for new wave of people, especially the Hazaras.

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It's a  bit like the parable in Matthew's Gospel  about the man who was exorcised of an unclean spirit. The spirit wanders around homelessly for a while:",then it says, 'I will return to my house from which I came'; and when it comes, it finds it unoccupied, swept, and put in order. "Then it goes and takes along with it seven other spirits more wicked than itself, and they go in and live there; and the last state of that man becomes worse than the first". 

[***super_nova***]

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@freakiness wrote:

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@topsidesoul wrote:

I do not remember people complaining about cost to tax payers when we gave Sri lanka (who are being investigated for war crimes after the British took them to the UN) naval boats .

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No, just like we don't hear many complain that off-shore detention and processing costs a lot more than on-shore detention and processing.

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Oh, I complain loud and clear about both; maybe not always here  ......

[poddster]

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@***super_nova*** wrote:

...... Sitting around waiting with nothing to do would sent me insane;

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Getting on a leaky boat could get you dead.

And you would take that option??

[poddster]

"Those people who chose to take care of themselves rather than sit in the camps (sometimes for decades) are exactly the kind of people we want = people with energy, get up & go, and tackle any obstacle put in their way. They are the kind of people that made Australia what it is now. "

Who ever said this Is probably correct.

The way Australia and most of the world is today has been fashioned by those who will stop at nothing to take advantage over anyone or any situation. In the past it was "screw you Jack, I'm ok" these days it is "I'm better than than just ok because I have screwed you for all you had" the unfortunate fact is that, that sort of attitude and behaviour is applauded by most and dubbed SUCCESS.

I'll take the people with endurance and patience instead of the arrogant, unlawful, demanding and ruthless type every time.

[poddster]

Nova would you also risk the lives of your young children in decidingto get on a leaky unsafe boat?

[***super_nova***]

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@poddster wrote:

"Those people who chose to take care of themselves rather than sit in the camps (sometimes for decades) are exactly the kind of people we want = people with energy, get up & go, and tackle any obstacle put in their way. They are the kind of people that made Australia what it is now. "

Who ever said this Is probably correct.

The way Australia and most of the world is today has been fashioned by those who will stop at nothing to take advantage over anyone or any situation. In the past it was "screw you Jack, I'm ok" these days it is "I'm better than than just ok because I have screwed you for all you had" the unfortunate fact is that, that sort of attitude and behaviour is applauded by most and dubbed SUCCESS.

I'll take the people with endurance and patience instead of the arrogant, unlawful, demanding and ruthless type every time.

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Actually, my comment was bit tongue in cheek.  I do not necessarily believe that these people are better than others, but I wanted to see what those, who say that the refugees want to come to Australia because they can to get the dole and do nothing, will say.  🙂

So, you say that nothing would make you to get in a boat.  But it is not impatience that gets these people to try to come by sea, it is desperation.  What they are leaving behind is worse than death at the sea.

[poddster]

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@***super_nova*** wrote:

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Actually, my comment was bit tongue in cheek.  I do not necessarily believe that these people are better than others, but I wanted to see what those, who say that the refugees want to come to Australia because they can to get the dole and do nothing, will say.  🙂

So, you say that nothing would make you to get in a boat.  But it is not impatience that gets these people to try to come by sea, it is desperation.  What they are leaving behind is worse than death at the sea.

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Well Nova my reply was not a bit tongue in cheek but heartfelt honesty.

I see that you have side stepped my question about risking your young kids lives by boarding a leaky unseaworthy boat just to relieve your boredom.

I certainly do not share your admiration the people that you described in yout "tongue in cheek assessment"

And no I would not line the pockets of criminal people smugglers to take advantage of others who are disenfranchised and I certainly would not put my children's lives in jeopardy.

I guess we differ in our view of life.

[***super_nova***]

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@poddster wrote:

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@***super_nova*** wrote:

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Actually, my comment was bit tongue in cheek.  I do not necessarily believe that these people are better than others, but I wanted to see what those, who say that the refugees want to come to Australia because they can to get the dole and do nothing, will say.  🙂

So, you say that nothing would make you to get in a boat.  But it is not impatience that gets these people to try to come by sea, it is desperation.  What they are leaving behind is worse than death at the sea.

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Well Nova my reply was not a bit tongue in cheek but heartfelt honesty.

I see that you have side stepped my question about risking your young kids lives by boarding a leaky unseaworthy boat just to relieve your boredom.

And no I would not line the pockets of criminal people smugglers to take advantage of others who are disenfranchised and I certainly would not put my children's lives in jeopardy.

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So, you would sit in filthy crowded disease ridden conditions  with your kids, somewhere like this:

knowing that only small % of the people there have any chance of being accepted for resettlement? 

Getting on a boat at least gives hope.  Of-course, the smugglers do not tell them how bad the boats really are, and often force them on board at gun point or say that this boat is only taking them off shore to a bigger safe boat. 

You say you would not get into the boat, but how do you know what you would do if you would find yourself in situation that is intolerable, when you are running from war and persecution, you cannot stay where you are and you cannot go back; the only way is just keep going.

Lets face it, how many of the displaced people will ever find permanent place to live?

" Today, there are almost 44 million forcibly displaced people in the world. Of these, 15.4 million are refugees, 27.5 million are internally displaced persons (IDP's), and 800,000 are asylum-seekers hoping to achieve refugee status. In addition to displaced people, there are up to 12 million stateless persons worldwide who do not have citizenship in any nation-state. Despite the fact that few countries have reliable methods for documenting stateless people, awareness of their presence and the difficulties they face is on the rise. As of 2010, 65 countries reported statistics on stateless people, up from just 30 in 2004.

From 2006-2010, only 444,000 refugees were permanently resettled (1% of the displaced population). "