on 24-12-2013 08:38 PM
on 24-12-2013 10:02 PM
msm newspapers, the first two pages of google results was mostly rubbish from energy-funded fraudulent so called 'think tanks' and their army of over zealous followers. the sheer volume of carp did a lot of the damage . eloquent idiots like bolt used this unresearched cherry-picked tosh to great effect.
on 25-12-2013 02:57 PM
@icyfroth wrote:
@lakeland27 wrote:i dont think anyone blames dumbo for the plastic, just his silly pretend game he calls 'direct action' .
If you think a carbon tax would prevent this, I question just who the "dumbo" is, Lakes.
i have no doubts
on 25-12-2013 09:06 PM
@silverfaun wrote:I loved Germany and you're right, here we have hyperventilating because we were accosted with a "carbon tax" that did nothing about the purveyors of plastic junk unlimited,
The manufacture of every ton of PET produces around 3 tons of carbon dioxide (CO2). Bottling water thus created more than 2.5 million tons of CO2 in 2006.
a carbon tax is the best method of reduction
on 24-12-2013 08:40 PM
on 24-12-2013 09:00 PM
i believe i believe ! but it isn't just that, there's irrefutable evidence (despite some attempts to muddy the waters)
merry xmas to you and hugh
on 24-12-2013 09:06 PM
on 24-12-2013 09:11 PM
lots of dodgy books around. my own guide to collectible plastics is much maligned for instance, possibly because i made a lot of it up
on 24-12-2013 09:16 PM
on 24-12-2013 09:18 PM
change pollution for population
on 24-12-2013 09:20 PM
on 24-12-2013 09:25 PM - last edited on 26-12-2013 03:51 PM by li.vish
Oh right this is just another Abbott-bashing thread.
For a moment there I thought you really cared about pollution. But I guess with all the plastic you import for resale, you'd be the last person to worry about the pollution in manufacture and pollution in disposal it creates.
As you were.
on 24-12-2013 09:26 PM
havent you done this subject to death donna?
Climate is changing but there are many intelligent (not abbott) people that believe it is not caused by humans.
i guess you must of missed abbots comments he made on the topic earlier this year
My personal belief is that pollution cannot be helping
it is the cause, blimey
abbot has no doubt studied the subject, and i bet he realizes that the impact man has had on the planet can not be reversed - the damage has already been done