Integration etc

[bluecat*dancing]

I was wondering on another thread what culture/ assimilation/ integration means, especially in regards to refugees, actually means. The meaning probably differs from person to person so I was wondering what other's interpretation are. Just wondering.

[bluecat*dancing]

Exactly, Icy. I choose to be with like minded people especially when it comes to things such as social justice, mental health, our first nations, child protection, animal welfare etc

No doubt there are millions and millions of people who think differently to me, and most of the time, that is a good thing because I wouldn't wish my self-destructive sadness, anxiety and  bi polar way of thinking on anyone. But when it comes to the care and compassion of those who are most vulnerable, then, I wish that there were millions and millions more who did think that way.

[icyfroth]

You still haven't clarified who the "desired" inmates of prison are.

I would've thought any inmates of prisons would be "undesired".

[debra9275]

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@bluecat*riverdancing wrote:

Exactly, Icy. I choose to be with like minded people especially when it comes to things such as social justice, mental health, our first nations, child protection, animal welfare etc

No doubt there are millions and millions of people who think differently to me, and most of the time, that is a good thing because I wouldn't wish my self-destructive sadness, anxiety and  bi polar way of thinking on anyone. But when it comes to the care and compassion of those who are most vulnerable, then, I wish that there were millions and millions more who did think that way.

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Blue, you are a very nice and decent human being 

[the_great_she_elephant]

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@icyfroth wrote:

You still haven't clarified who the "desired" inmates of prison are.

I would've thought any inmates of prisons would be "undesired".

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Bluecat's post referred to inmates of jails from "desired" ethnic and religious backgrounds not  "desired" inmates of prison. 

[icyfroth]

Thank you she-el, that's nice of you to make an attempt at clarification on Blue's behalf.

However you've mis -cued a bit.

I actually wanted to know what  Blue meant by prison inmates of "desired" religious/ethnic  background.

Thank you.

[Anonymous]

and i asked desired by whom?

[Anonymous]

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@the_great_she_elephant wrote:

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@icyfroth wrote:

Integration means that ALL schoolchildren should stand for the Australian Anthem when it's sung at assembly or in class.

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If that is a dig at the children who were allowed to leave a school assembly before the singing of the National anthem, it is a  bit disingenuous, Icy. It was one school, it  had nothing to do with the National Anthem per se and provoked the following response from Islamic community leaders.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/muslim-leaders-defend-the-national-anthem-after-students-a...

You might, however,  like to take the issue up with the Jehovah's Witnesses. 

http://thejehovahswitnesses.org/flag.php

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the JWs are often criticised and ridiculed

because of their religious practices.  

i've never seen their critics being labelled

as bigots, racists, haters etc...i wonder why?

anywho... more about integration:

An Islamic extremist living in Sydney could soon be charged with contempt following his repeated refusal to face a judge on the basis of his religious beliefs.

Milad bin Ahmad-Shah al-Ahmadzai claims he does not recognise any authority other than Islam and has so far refused to attend court to face charges for attempted murder and car theft.

http://www.9news.com.au/national/2015/12/01/07/30/islamic-extremist-could-face-contempt-charges-afte...

[the_great_she_elephant]

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@icyfroth wrote:

Thank you she-el, that's nice of you to make an attempt at clarification on Blue's behalf.

However you've mis -cued a bit.

I actually wanted to know what  Blue meant by prison inmates of "desired" religious/ethnic  background.

Thank you.

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But your exact words were: You still haven't clarified who the "desired" inmates of prison are. I would've thought any inmates of prisons would be "undesired.

If you don't say what you mean, then people will assume you mean what you say.

[the_great_she_elephant]

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@*julia*2010 wrote:

and i asked desired by whom?

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And I would assume. from what Bluecat actually said that she was referring to religious and ethnic backgrounds that are considered desirable (as opposed to undesirable) by the Pauline Hansons of this world.

[icyfroth]

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@lind9650 wrote:

Are you addressing me. Icy?

I do stand up to the anthem, also I can not sing, I can speak the words.

And no, I don't live in a community of likeminded people, but Like someone else said, I am entitled to my opinion. You don't have to agree with me.

Erica

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I wasn't addressing you Erica, those comments were intended for Blue-cat.

Pls disregard.