05-09-2013 09:55 AM - edited 05-09-2013 09:58 AM
An Interesting Breakfast Radio Show with Sami and Yumi this morning.
Amongst other things discussed, this topic came up:
"A single sentence, uttered in the trial of George Zimmerman for the shooting of teenager Trayvon Martin, has catapulted an issue into the national spotlight.
When asked if she could read a letter in court, witness Rachel Jeantel, her head bowed, murmured with embarrassment, "I don't read cursive," ABC News reports."
The recently established Common Core State Standards, the standardized educational benchmarks for U.S. public schools, omit cursive as a requirement. Some states, including Indiana and Hawaii, had dropped cursive from their curricula in favor of keyboard proficiency as early as 2011.
A single sentence, uttered in the trial of George Zimmerman for the shooting of teenager Trayvon Martin, has catapulted an issue into the national spotlight.
When asked if she could read a letter in court, witness Rachel Jeantel, her head bowed, murmured with embarrassment, "I don't read cursive," ABC News reports.
Is it any surprise that cursive — the looped, curvaceous style of handwriting that's been a mainstay of education for generations — is all but dead? [15 Weird Things We Do Everyday, and Why]
"Cursive should be allowed to die. In fact, it's already dying, despite having been taught for decades," Morgan Polikoff, assistant professor of education at the University of Southern California's Rossier School of Education, told The New York Times.
"Very small proportions of adults use cursive for their day-to-day writing," Polikoff said. "Much of our communication is done on a keyboard, and the rest is done with print."
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I must admit, I don't cursive write anymore my handwriting has degenerated since using the keyboard. When writing by hand, I print.
Yumi says her 9 and 11yo had just learned to print when they had to start all over again to learn cursive.
Sami says if she had kids she'd want them taught cursive writing. Of 5 callers, 3 were adamant they'd want their children to learn cursive writing. The other 2, one them a teacher said no, it's never used in real life, it's taken over by computer writing the same as we use calculator to do our maths with. The other, a child developmental practioner, said children needed cursive writing lessons to help hand-eye co-ordination.
It seems that we are regressing with the education of our children. Over 200 years we battled for public education for every child to be taught to read, write and do basic arithmetic.
I think the socially disadvantaged will become even more so if these basic skills are no longer taught in the public education system.
Technology can fail, but basic learned skills are with you a lifetime.
on 05-09-2013 04:05 PM
I am old, I learnt to write like what Illicit put up though I have gotten slacker with it since then. I love cursive, running, whatever you call it, I also like the very, very old writing, shame there's not more of it.
on 05-09-2013 05:03 PM
Returning to the OP "It seems that we are regressing with the education of our children"
I think with all the extra things children have to learn, some things have to be let go but I don't think that is necessarily regressing. The fact that the best person to ask if you have a computer problem is a teenager underlines that. (and my children laugh when they see me typing away with 2 fingers.)
on 05-09-2013 05:11 PM
@illicit69 wrote:Whilst agree that Mathematics (without the use of the dreaded calculator) is the most important of all the subjects at School. However, if you’re not taught cursive writing (it used to be called “copy book” writing when I was a child and I loved it,are our children of today going to simply print their signature because they’ve never been taught basic ‘running writing’ – how easy that would be to forge? Call me old fashioned, but to my mind true cursive writing (penmanship) is a thing of beauty, it’s an art and something that should never be allowed to die.
Very pretty, and that is what I was taught in the early 90's. However, that is not what cursive looks like now, and I can say that a form of cursive is taught in WA schools. My boys are learning, but they will never use it, their printing is hard enough to read.
I agree, time is better spent on mental maths and such than pretty writing.
on 13-09-2013 04:40 PM
I'm 34 & was educated in an Australian Public School....
What absolutely confounds me is that we were taught Cursive in "Prep" & grade 1, in fact we HAD to be proficient in Cursive Writing before we were issued with our "Pen License" (here comes the contradiction)..
When we got to grade 3 or 4, we were not allowed to use Cursive Writing at all, we had to go back to Printing.
I'm the proud owner of numerous very old, hand written manuscripts, letters & diaries....all of which are written in beautifully flourishing script (AKA Cursive) so even though we were essentially banned from using cursive at school, I can still read & write using the sadly diminishing skill of Writing In Cursive.
Just my two cents
on 13-09-2013 05:25 PM
Just wondering, what does cursive writing look like now?
on 13-09-2013 06:07 PM
This site has an example of 2010 Queensland cursive. Bit boring really.
http://inquirybites.typepad.com/thecriticalclassroom/2010/02/qcursive-queenslands-official-font.html
on 13-09-2013 06:22 PM
@bright.ton42 wrote:Just wondering, what does cursive writing look like now?
There are no loops, the r and s are different and practically the entire upper case alphabet is different. I am talking WA only, I do not know what is taught in other states.
on 13-09-2013 06:53 PM
Lovely little Grand-daughter (aged 10) attends the Aspley State School in Brisbane, and that’s exactly the type of cursive writing she’s being forced to learn. The teacher, in her infinite wisdom, failed her first test because Grandie insisted on looping her g’s and y’s , which is the way both DD and I taught her when she was only just 4 years old, and I must admit her ‘running writing’ is extremely good, very close to the old style ‘copy book’ writing. However when my DD confronted the teacher regarding the ‘fail’, teacher stated that Grandie MUST COMPLY – my daughter’s response was “you can't fit a square peg into a round hole”, to say she was livid is an understatement.
Obviously the Queensland Education Department don’t want anyone to 'dare to be different'. She’s top student in her class at Maths & Science, but failed English just because of her 'loopy doops' on the g’s and y’s; never mind the fact that she can spell Ornithorhynchus and is more comfortable speaking to older students and adults than her peers and yes, she's an only child and only Grandie, but not by choice DD can't have anymore children and our Son passed away at age 20 of a congenital heart condition, so no more Grandies for us, she's very, very precious.
on 13-09-2013 08:13 PM
You must be very proud of your lovely little Grandie and so you should be. I thinnk it's woeful she should be failed
because of her style of writing. Surely hand writing will become obsolete in the not so far distant future anyway.
on 14-09-2013 10:13 AM