Is there a time when Rape is not as bad?

http://www.news.com.au/world/judge-jeanine-howard-sparks-outrage-for-saying-sexually-assaulted-14yea...

 

A TEXAS judge has sentenced a confessed rapist to just five years’ probation, implying his 14-year-old victim was promiscuous and “wasn’t the victim she claimed to be”. 

Sir Young, 20, pleaded guilty to raping the girl at their Booker T. Washington High School in Dallas when he was 18, even as she told him “no” and “stop”, according to the Dallas News .

But State District Judge Jeanine Howard stunned many when she opted for probation, which will include 45 days in jail, and also exempted him from standard sex-offender restrictions, such as staying away from children, attending sex offender treatment, undergoing a sex offender evaluation or refraining from watching pornography.

 

 

Judge calls rape victim 'promiscuous'

Howard told the News she made her decision partly because medical records showed the victim had had three sexual partners and had given birth to a baby — both claims the girl has denied.

“She wasn’t the victim she claimed to be,” Howard said. “He is not your typical sex offender.

 

 

Did the judge get it right?

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@alexander*beetle wrote:

Prey tell.  Just what is a typical rapist? 


Yeah, keep digging that hole, bob
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@imastawka wrote:

@alexander*beetle wrote:

Prey tell.  Just what is a typical rapist? 


Yeah, keep digging that hole, bob

I'm not saying what the guy did was OK. It's rape and he deserves some punishment but I do get the feeling the judge saw more into the case than what we can tell on the surface.

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Also, I think what has been overlooked in this thread

the victim was a 14 yo CHILD

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@imastawka wrote:

 

Also, I think what has been overlooked in this thread

the victim was a 14 yo CHILD


i took it for granted the age of consent is of that age in that part of the world?


Signatures suck.
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Googled -

 

 *sigh*      It seems in Texas that the age of consent is 14

but only if the other person is only 3 years older.

 

I still think 14 is a child

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14 year old children are sexting their friends.  Sadly it's a changing world.

 

 

Joono
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As for you Bob.  I still think of most 18 year old males as boys too.  Not quite men yet.  That doesn't develop until they are at least 35.

Joono
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Exactly joono, it's not the number but the age their minds are at.

 

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@i-once-was-bump wrote:

@kopenhagen5 wrote:

For most part I think judges are terrific in seeing through to the truth.

 

But by George can they get it wrong sometimes.

 

I have also learnt over time that some girls can be very cunning and manipulative and full of carp appearing like angels, totally going against my upbringing and beliefs.


Well stay away from those types if you have a problem with them.

 

Also I am at a loss as to how that applies to a discussion about rape, are you suggesting that some girls are cunning and manipulative enough to get a man charged with rape when it wasn't rape?


Are you suggesting this never happens???
It happens all too frequently, which makes it much harder on real victims who have to go through the wringer to get justice.

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If you read the story which prompted this thread, it was clearly rape.  Arguably the girl changed her mind: that is, it appears she gave implied consented and then withdrew that consent.  Or perhaps she was only interested in some heavy petting.  But on the evidence she was saying "no, don't" while the young man performed the deed. 

 

Is this as bad as being attacked by a crazed lunatic while walking through a park?  Obviously not, but it is still bad.  So yes, there are times when rape is not as bad.  

 

However, the issue the story raises is not the culpability of the rapist but of the victim.  The rapist here was a young man without a history of violence, he admitted his error and demonstrated remorse.  It would be safe to assume he would not re-offend and it may be argued that a conviction with the consequential listing on a sex offenders register would be too harsh punishment. But the judge identified as a mitigating factor the sexual history of the victim.  Rape may be bad or very bad but I cannot see how the seriousness of the offence can be mitigated by the characteristics of the victim.     

 

 

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